You know, this is exactly the kind of response I expected.

Good to know I was on the right track.

Very best regards;

Bob Finch


> On 9/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Well o.k. on the "all" , I figured as much too. Really I did....
>>
>> I am aware of some stuff already being 'split'. Really I was.....
>>
>> Perhaps a better way of viewing my rant is to look at things this way;
>>
>> CAN some of the various things proposed to date (in this thread) be
>> accomplished in a more 'elegant' way ? <- I am asking that this
>> question be asked EACH time someone proposes a 'solution' to some
>> 'problem/issue' they are facing.
>
>
> Can YOU propose a more elegant way to do the things? If you can, please
> instead of ranting, make you proposal, as asked when this thread
> started.
>
>
> I have seen in this thread solutions to problems that are not problems
> at
>> all !; i.e. Stuff that is solved with simple scripting and using
>> things like provides, conflicts, and many of the other 'improvements'
>> that ALREADY exist in pacman. <- Yes, some of this discussion has been
>> to improve things that do NOT exist, but some has not. I WAS SPEAKING
>> TO ALL OF THE THREAD.
>
>
> They might not be problems for you. Remember that there are other users
> also, and ultimately the devs try to solve MOST PEOPLE problems.
> On a side note, MANY "problems" put on this thread were NOT the problems
> intended to be solved by splitting packages, like separating -dev, and
> etc. There are other real problems like splitting gcc in gcc and
> gcc-lib, which I think is reasonable. As I said before: all comes down
> to some policies. No one wants to make Arch become debian, we all went
> through it, be assured. BUT to some very specific problems, the
> splitting possibility may be a clean and elegant solution. Also,
> remember, the devs aren't paid for anything, they do this mostly for
> fun, so if something can help them, I think they have the right (and
> even the obligation) to do it.
>
> Now let me try to make this more clear for everyone:
> No one wants to make Arch be debian. It´s not the intent. Really. The
> intent is to solve some problems. So please use this thread to propose
> better and elegant SOLUTIONS to the split-package problem, so we can
> continue having the KISS Distro we all like.
>
> Also, I thought on asking the devs to enumerate what are the kinds of
> problems do they intend on solving with split-packages. First to stop
> people complaining about things that aren't true. Second I think it can
> help if we have details on the problem at hand as we try to propose
> solutions.
>
> Just my 0,02
>
> --
> Cheers,
>       Rodrigo
>
> A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open
> windows.
>                    ~Linus Torvalds





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