Hi Gomzy, Mahima and Vinayakam, let me give one parallel.
You must have noticed that the starting part of Hawa sun hawa has similar arrangement as in - Sunta hai Mera Khuda (Pukar) - Maan tujhe Salam (Vandemataram) That is drum beats on a soft, fluid, vibrating, background, wavy, sound sort of. Now, listen to Sunta hai Mera Khuda or Maan tujhe Salam, and you can make out in flat 2 seconds (or less) that it is ARR's. Nobody else could do it till now. But, that same characteristic signature sort of feeling is not so noticeable in Hawa sun hawa, i think. One has to strive to find that it is ARR's. Such a lovely song hawa sun hawa is. Still, I feel some songs by other MDs had been there not so far below. Of course, no match as such but somewhat that type. btw, it could be the common singers using similar span of their voices. That is why I thought that lack of a clearcut ARR signature is causing his songs to loose their high, unique level and sounding similar to other MD's work. -- V On 7/22/2008 11:21 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: > I can understand for Pappu, but Hawa sun hawa Rawat! > > 1) The way the flute has been used throughout. > 2) The piano bits here and there. > 3) ARR was given " Koun hai yada jo har pal aye, yada woh aye tho ake na > jaye" > But he smartly and heavenly uses the same line to be repeated by > Alka after Sonu finishes the same line. > 4) The second para he starts with a new tune " meri sadayein , tujho ko > bulaye "....ever seen any MD have diff tunes from 2 diff paras ? > very rare! > 5) the aja re aja re part, so lovely > 6) Usage of the tabla mixed with sizzles. > 7) And last but not least, the usage of the flute again, during the end > of the song! > > You have been hearing. All you have to do is listen :) > > But A R Rahman! > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Vinayakam Murugan > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) > is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't > sound pretentious like the rest. > > > > Warm Regards > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Vinayak > http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai > chal rahit vyahvar mera > > Harivanshrai Bacchan > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com>> wrote: > > Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the > > bass....definetly ARR style > > Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats > throught the > > song....definetly ARR` > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:vsrawat%40gmail.com>> wrote: > >> > >> I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has > deserted me. > >> > >> The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in > Pappu Can't > >> Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. > >> > >> Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a > >> Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and > cool, so > >> soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. > >> > >> In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the > telltale ARR > >> effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs > could have > >> been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no > inspiration, no > >> nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of > >> that type in the past. > >> > >> If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi > Rey, and > >> you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the > sound, the > >> level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 > >> years, even with inspiration from ARR. > >> > >> I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not > identify > >> that ARR effect in these two. > >> > >> Could anyone help me here. > >> > >> Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is > >> known for and that no one else could create so far? > >> > >> -- > >> V