answer to ur question in the subject - "throughout the song" On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Gomzy, Mahima and Vinayakam, > > let me give one parallel. > > You must have noticed that the starting part of Hawa sun hawa has > similar arrangement as in > > - Sunta hai Mera Khuda (Pukar) > - Maan tujhe Salam (Vandemataram) > > That is drum beats on a soft, fluid, vibrating, background, wavy, sound > sort of. > > Now, listen to Sunta hai Mera Khuda or Maan tujhe Salam, and you can > make out in flat 2 seconds (or less) that it is ARR's. Nobody else could > do it till now. > > But, that same characteristic signature sort of feeling is not so > noticeable in Hawa sun hawa, i think. One has to strive to find that it > is ARR's. > > Such a lovely song hawa sun hawa is. Still, I feel some songs by other > MDs had been there not so far below. Of course, no match as such but > somewhat that type. btw, it could be the common singers using similar > span of their voices. > > That is why I thought that lack of a clearcut ARR signature is causing > his songs to loose their high, unique level and sounding similar to > other MD's work. > > -- > V > > On 7/22/2008 11:21 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: > > > I can understand for Pappu, but Hawa sun hawa Rawat! > > > > 1) The way the flute has been used throughout. > > 2) The piano bits here and there. > > 3) ARR was given " Koun hai yada jo har pal aye, yada woh aye tho ake na > > jaye" > > But he smartly and heavenly uses the same line to be repeated by > > Alka after Sonu finishes the same line. > > 4) The second para he starts with a new tune " meri sadayein , tujho ko > > bulaye "....ever seen any MD have diff tunes from 2 diff paras ? > > very rare! > > 5) the aja re aja re part, so lovely > > 6) Usage of the tabla mixed with sizzles. > > 7) And last but not least, the usage of the flute again, during the end > > of the song! > > > > You have been hearing. All you have to do is listen :) > > > > But A R Rahman! > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Vinayakam Murugan > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mvinayakam%40gmail.com> <mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mvinayakam%40gmail.com>>> wrote: > > > > Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) > > is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't > > sound pretentious like the rest. > > > > > > > > Warm Regards > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Vinayak > > http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai > > chal rahit vyahvar mera > > > > Harivanshrai Bacchan > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]<gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com> > > <mailto:gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com <gomtesh.upadhye%2540gmail.com>>> > wrote: > > > Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the > > > bass....definetly ARR style > > > Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats > > throught the > > > song....definetly ARR` > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat <[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED]<vsrawat%40gmail.com> > > <mailto:vsrawat%40gmail.com <vsrawat%2540gmail.com>>> wrote: > > >> > > >> I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has > > deserted me. > > >> > > >> The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in > > Pappu Can't > > >> Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. > > >> > > >> Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a > > >> Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and > > cool, so > > >> soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. > > >> > > >> In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the > > telltale ARR > > >> effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs > > could have > > >> been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no > > inspiration, no > > >> nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of > > >> that type in the past. > > >> > > >> If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi > > Rey, and > > >> you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the > > sound, the > > >> level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 > > >> years, even with inspiration from ARR. > > >> > > >> I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not > > identify > > >> that ARR effect in these two. > > >> > > >> Could anyone help me here. > > >> > > >> Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is > > >> known for and that no one else could create so far? > > >> > > >> -- > > >> V > > >
