On 8/31/2009 7:36 AM India Time, _dinesh.theboss_ wrote: > u clearly dunno what Tamil films r made of.
right. Non-Tamilians have no business knowing what Tamil films are made of. Do tell us. > Try watching some > offbeats Tamil films (which simply means movies that eventually > doesnt have ARR's music). Back to square one. The point is: I don't know what offbeat films are there in Tamil. How do I choose and watch then? > The emotions in those movies couldnt be > done in Hindi films. Let me compare. And to understand the dialogues, I would need to have English/ Hindi subtitles in them. Help. > I dare to say that Tamil films are much more > superior to Hindi films when it comes to perfection, emotions and > message that was delivered in the film. Empty boast. It is habit of people to find everything in their mother tongue the best. No problem with that until they start undermining other creations in other languages in comparison with that. > Hindi films are > Technologically well equipped, but no doubt, Tamil films are much > better. Again, a Tamilian saying that Tamil films are better doesn't prove anything. > That is why we fans r kind of disappointed that ARR was not > offered these kinda projects but only offered by useless movies like > Sakarakatti and such. ARR is not responsible for movies. He is responsible only for the music. If some director is a fool to waste the great talent of ARR (like Subhash Ghai does in Hindi), well, it is their funeral. You and I, as ARR fans are not responsible for that, though disappointed we are. > > Watching dubbing films will not truly show what is Tamil films is all > about. Then, I will never be able to put your and Krishna's claim to test that Tamil films are best, better, or even good or tolerable. The few, I had seen, fully or in part, were not perfect. May be my bad luck. In the Aparijit Hindi dubbed version, the entire villager make-up of the hero was just stupid. and the HJ song he sings with the heroine in that garden was sickening to see, even worse than Jumbalika wasted in Takshak. Mani' films dubbed to Hindi - Well, I already said that Mani's films only have ending problem. He gets confused when and how to end a movie. otherwise, his sense of songs placement and shooting is perfect, like Shankar's. Shankar's dubbed films are contemporary and well made, though I wouldn't put any single Shankar film in the category of "classic" or all time great. they are entertainers. jeans, sapney was funny and entertaining, no way a classic. so on. Remind other Tamil movies dubbed to Hindi, and I would comment if I had seen them. so on. > Try to come out of the ARR's circulation and watch other Tamil > films then u come forward and comment. Do not just say with ur > experience of watching Tamil dubbed films by Shankar or Mani. Tamil > films are not ALL THAT just by Shankar and Mani Ratnam. You are out of sync with your argument. When I dont know tamil, I have no business seeing a movie whose language I don't understand. > > Im glad now Gautham and Rahman are together. Lets see how is the > final product. Gautham who? Has he done anything in Hindi? or any of his Tamil work got dubbed to Hindi. Otherwise what is the point mentioning him when I don't get to see his work. > > But one thing i salute ARR is for composing music for new comer > directors, which will be a GREAT asset for them. He has given music > for many new budding directors and im glad these new directors r very > keen to get ARR's music in their film. When at a time Selvaraghavan, > Bala, Ameer, etc etc are going for other music directors, these young > fellows are still there to make us listen to ARR's songs. Imagine if > there was no Sakarakatti last year, nor Gautham never opt out for ARR > this year, we would not have seen any Tamil projects released. IT > would have been 2 years living without ARR's music in Malaysia. > (Where Tamil songs are the MAIN STREAM here). All the names above are alien to me (except our man's), so no point. > > Hope to see the young great directors in Tamil to work with ARR. Good. i also hope such work gets dubbed/ remade to Hindi and I also get to see the same. Thanks. -- Rawat > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote: >> On 8/30/2009 9:00 PM India Time, _krishna prasad_ wrote: >> >>> hi guys, >> Hi Krishna, >> >> First I concede that you have all the right to express your views. >> >>> Rahman should stop doing any more Hindi movies and revert back >>> doing more MEANINGFUL tamil movies and he can obviously satisfy >>> his musical hunger by doing Hollywood projects. >> There are meaning movies in all languages of the Earth, not just in >> Tamil. And there are non-meaningful movies in Tamil also, as in >> all languages of the Earth. >> >> oh, you wrote "his" musical hunger. >> >> What exactly you mean by that? >> >> What about my musical hunger, our (his fans') musical hunger? >> >>> What bollywood produces is <snip>. Take this left,right and >>> centre. >> That a red flag to Hindi guys who will now start listing the name >> of sickening Tamil movies. Hope members don't start that. >> >>> If you say DILLI 6 is the zenith of Hindi movies >> No, it is not. >> >>> guys kindly excuse me, we have FAR FAR FAR Better projects for >>> our boss in Tamil. Here i am refering to the movie and not the >>> music. >> I have seen the movie of Tamil giants (Shankar, Mani, others) >> dubbed in Hindi, and do you want me to list the useless part of >> this. Well, to begin, Manirathnam doesn't even know how to end a >> movie properly. He starts great, builds it up great and then just >> stops midstream, putting and shabby end when 2 hour shoot is over. >> How does that sound for a great director? >> >>> Boss shuld stop doing <snip> like Yuvraj, Blue etc. I mean it. >>> Blue is copy of some english film and i dont like my boss being >>> part of such a group. >> Have you seen Blue? >> >> do you know its script/ storyline? Do share with us. >> >> Otherwise, did you read Nostradamus dreams to find what Blue is >> about and how is it going to be? >> >>> Rahman sir please come back to Tamil and continue from where you >>> left. >> Did he ever leave Tamil movie? I wasn't aware. Last I heard is he >> had doing some "really classic, all time great" film sakkarkatti >> last year, an indication of the greatness of all Tamil movies. >> >>> Guys nowadays to fill Rahman's absence i am forced to listen to >>> HJ's music cos he is closest to Rahman and not SEL/Vishal Shekar >>> as many of you think. >>> >>> And HJ simply composes the same stuff again and makes merry . >>> >>> WHAT PROVIDENCE:!!!!!! >>> >>> ARR has been forgotten in TAMIL. >> If it is so, then you are just saying that Tamilians are so >> thankless to forget one of the most gifted Tamilian in his Oscar >> year. I can't believe it. >> >>> Take it from me. Ask the general public. Go out and see for >>> yourself guys. Dont live the framed space of a computer and >>> wirite your views. >>> >>> Sir come back to your roots. compose another May Madham for us >>> please >>> >>> >>> This is my kind request. >>> >>> regards, Krishna >> -- Rawat
