Dude, im not saying Tamil films r better because im a Tamilan. U r obviously arent aware of the choices of films that i watch. I do not only watch Tamil films. Im a person who watches ALL languages movies, English, Telugu, Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Korean, Japanese, Indonesian, Spanish, Malay, Cantonese. I know when i say Tamil films r better than Hindi. I dont need to support my own mother tongue language movies if it is bad. Come on, being an ARRahman fan, how can u stick to only 1 movie industry?
The names of Dirs that i mentioned under the Tamil industry are to be classic directors soon. Bala is the man behind 'PithaMagan' which earned Vikram his National Award for best actor. He had directed other movies that were critically acclaimed."Naan Kadavul" is one, a very disturbing movie. Ameer had directed 'Raam', which whereby the film was screened at the 2006 Cyprus International Film Festival, where it won two awards for Best Actor and Best Musical Score for Jeeva and Yuvan Shankar Raja, respectively. And his 'Paruthi Veeran' was another international acclaimed movie. Selvaragavan is a good director, where his movie 7G rainbow colony was a very touching movie. Gautham is a very promising director, though his Hindi movie "Rehna Hai Tere Dil Mein" , a remake of his Tamil movie Minnale was a bad one,his tamil films like " Kaake Kaake ", " Vaaranam Aayiram", " Vettaiadhu Vilaiyadu" are good. His "Pachhaikili Muthucharam" (inspired by the bestselling book, Derailed by James Siegel) was taken in a way that is in Mani Ratnam's style, but it was a flop . He is a big fan of Mani Ratnam, and he is 1 of the top leading Director in Tamil. And after 7 movies with Harris Jeyaraj (both started together with the movie Minnale), he is working with A.R.Rahman now for "Vinnaithaandi Varuvaiya". If were were to look outside Indian industry, Korean love subject movies are on par with Tamil, dare i say sometimes its better. For instance, watch " 200 Pounds Beauty" in youtube (they have subtitle for it), its an excellent movie which is very South Indian kinda movie. Not to say the story was taken in a Tamil'ish way, but its emotion, dialogues, songs placing and what not is indeed very Tamil'ish. Japanese are the trendsetters when it comes to Horror flicks. for instance stories in "Unholy women" had new sets of 'ghosts' and what not.They are very innovative in creating creatures. Lol. Anniyan (whats it called in Hindi again, aparachit?) is Shankar's worse film till date. It was nothing but a merge of all his previous films with a bad taste. It was not a big Hit in Tamil Nadu itself, it ran moderately because of Vikram and his fans support. Shankar did this movie just to cover up the the mess he made with "Boys", which did a very below the average business. I have seen Hindi films, despite they r the original or dubbed. Actually i hate watching dubbed films. I rather watch the original. Im like that, if the movie's original is in Hindi, i will watch it, skipping the Hindi-to-Tamil dubbed movies. So finally, i can see that u dun have any knowledge of movies outside Hindi, and thus u should not comment on movie industry that u are not aware of. Im still surprised to find A.R.Rahman fans who are still sticked to 1 movie industry when A.R.Rahman has composed for almost a dozen languages. Im glad im not 1 of it. Take care nanba. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote: > > On 8/31/2009 7:36 AM India Time, _dinesh.theboss_ wrote: > > > u clearly dunno what Tamil films r made of. > > right. Non-Tamilians have no business knowing what Tamil films are made > of. Do tell us. > > > Try watching some > > offbeats Tamil films (which simply means movies that eventually > > doesnt have ARR's music). > > Back to square one. The point is: I don't know what offbeat films are > there in Tamil. How do I choose and watch then? > > > The emotions in those movies couldnt be > > done in Hindi films. > > Let me compare. And to understand the dialogues, I would need to have > English/ Hindi subtitles in them. Help. > > > I dare to say that Tamil films are much more > > superior to Hindi films when it comes to perfection, emotions and > > message that was delivered in the film. > > Empty boast. It is habit of people to find everything in their mother > tongue the best. No problem with that until they start undermining other > creations in other languages in comparison with that. > > > Hindi films are > > Technologically well equipped, but no doubt, Tamil films are much > > better. > > Again, a Tamilian saying that Tamil films are better doesn't prove anything. > > > That is why we fans r kind of disappointed that ARR was not > > offered these kinda projects but only offered by useless movies like > > Sakarakatti and such. > > ARR is not responsible for movies. He is responsible only for the music. > If some director is a fool to waste the great talent of ARR (like > Subhash Ghai does in Hindi), well, it is their funeral. You and I, as > ARR fans are not responsible for that, though disappointed we are. > > > > > Watching dubbing films will not truly show what is Tamil films is all > > about. > > Then, I will never be able to put your and Krishna's claim to test that > Tamil films are best, better, or even good or tolerable. > > The few, I had seen, fully or in part, were not perfect. May be my bad luck. > > In the Aparijit Hindi dubbed version, the entire villager make-up of the > hero was just stupid. and the HJ song he sings with the heroine in that > garden was sickening to see, even worse than Jumbalika wasted in Takshak. > > Mani' films dubbed to Hindi - Well, I already said that Mani's films > only have ending problem. He gets confused when and how to end a movie. > otherwise, his sense of songs placement and shooting is perfect, like > Shankar's. > > Shankar's dubbed films are contemporary and well made, though I wouldn't > put any single Shankar film in the category of "classic" or all time > great. they are entertainers. > > jeans, sapney was funny and entertaining, no way a classic. so on. > > Remind other Tamil movies dubbed to Hindi, and I would comment if I had > seen them. > > so on. > > > Try to come out of the ARR's circulation and watch other Tamil > > films then u come forward and comment. Do not just say with ur > > experience of watching Tamil dubbed films by Shankar or Mani. Tamil > > films are not ALL THAT just by Shankar and Mani Ratnam. > > You are out of sync with your argument. When I dont know tamil, I have > no business seeing a movie whose language I don't understand. > > > > > Im glad now Gautham and Rahman are together. Lets see how is the > > final product. > > Gautham who? Has he done anything in Hindi? or any of his Tamil work got > dubbed to Hindi. Otherwise what is the point mentioning him when I don't > get to see his work. > > > > > But one thing i salute ARR is for composing music for new comer > > directors, which will be a GREAT asset for them. He has given music > > for many new budding directors and im glad these new directors r very > > keen to get ARR's music in their film. When at a time Selvaraghavan, > > Bala, Ameer, etc etc are going for other music directors, these young > > fellows are still there to make us listen to ARR's songs. Imagine if > > there was no Sakarakatti last year, nor Gautham never opt out for ARR > > this year, we would not have seen any Tamil projects released. IT > > would have been 2 years living without ARR's music in Malaysia. > > (Where Tamil songs are the MAIN STREAM here). > > All the names above are alien to me (except our man's), so no point. > > > > > Hope to see the young great directors in Tamil to work with ARR. > > Good. i also hope such work gets dubbed/ remade to Hindi and I also get > to see the same. > > Thanks. > -- > Rawat > > > > > > > --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat <vsrawat@> wrote: > >> On 8/30/2009 9:00 PM India Time, _krishna prasad_ wrote: > >> > >>> hi guys, > >> Hi Krishna, > >> > >> First I concede that you have all the right to express your views. > >> > >>> Rahman should stop doing any more Hindi movies and revert back > >>> doing more MEANINGFUL tamil movies and he can obviously satisfy > >>> his musical hunger by doing Hollywood projects. > >> There are meaning movies in all languages of the Earth, not just in > >> Tamil. And there are non-meaningful movies in Tamil also, as in > >> all languages of the Earth. > >> > >> oh, you wrote "his" musical hunger. > >> > >> What exactly you mean by that? > >> > >> What about my musical hunger, our (his fans') musical hunger? > >> > >>> What bollywood produces is <snip>. Take this left,right and > >>> centre. > >> That a red flag to Hindi guys who will now start listing the name > >> of sickening Tamil movies. Hope members don't start that. > >> > >>> If you say DILLI 6 is the zenith of Hindi movies > >> No, it is not. > >> > >>> guys kindly excuse me, we have FAR FAR FAR Better projects for > >>> our boss in Tamil. Here i am refering to the movie and not the > >>> music. > >> I have seen the movie of Tamil giants (Shankar, Mani, others) > >> dubbed in Hindi, and do you want me to list the useless part of > >> this. Well, to begin, Manirathnam doesn't even know how to end a > >> movie properly. He starts great, builds it up great and then just > >> stops midstream, putting and shabby end when 2 hour shoot is over. > >> How does that sound for a great director? > >> > >>> Boss shuld stop doing <snip> like Yuvraj, Blue etc. I mean it. > >>> Blue is copy of some english film and i dont like my boss being > >>> part of such a group. > >> Have you seen Blue? > >> > >> do you know its script/ storyline? Do share with us. > >> > >> Otherwise, did you read Nostradamus dreams to find what Blue is > >> about and how is it going to be? > >> > >>> Rahman sir please come back to Tamil and continue from where you > >>> left. > >> Did he ever leave Tamil movie? I wasn't aware. Last I heard is he > >> had doing some "really classic, all time great" film sakkarkatti > >> last year, an indication of the greatness of all Tamil movies. > >> > >>> Guys nowadays to fill Rahman's absence i am forced to listen to > >>> HJ's music cos he is closest to Rahman and not SEL/Vishal Shekar > >>> as many of you think. > >>> > >>> And HJ simply composes the same stuff again and makes merry . > >>> > >>> WHAT PROVIDENCE:!!!!!! > >>> > >>> ARR has been forgotten in TAMIL. > >> If it is so, then you are just saying that Tamilians are so > >> thankless to forget one of the most gifted Tamilian in his Oscar > >> year. I can't believe it. > >> > >>> Take it from me. Ask the general public. Go out and see for > >>> yourself guys. Dont live the framed space of a computer and > >>> wirite your views. > >>> > >>> Sir come back to your roots. compose another May Madham for us > >>> please > >>> > >>> > >>> This is my kind request. > >>> > >>> regards, Krishna > >> -- Rawat >
