That still doesn't make business sense to me.  Why would you ever purchase
the BMC Atrium standalone at that price when you could purchase Service Desk
at a fraction of the cost and have the BMC Atrium included.  You wouldn't
even have to use Service Desk if you didn't want to, have your CMDB and save
a ton of cash.  Just another example of BMCs strange business logic or is
there more to it than that?

On 6/15/07, P Romain ARSlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I guess the issue BMC are facing is that Atrium has no user licences so
the
only 'standard' source of revenue is the application license itself.


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Sent: 15 June 2007 13:25
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Subject: Re: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs?

Oops - my bad.

$100k is per instance, and $1.2M is per site licensing.

David Sanders
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:21 PM
To: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Subject: RE: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs?

Hi Carey

I can't answer your question about the difference in name, but the cost of
"BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager" is I think $100k per site, or $1.2M
for
an enterprise license.  Plus costs per endpoint, like $150 per server
managed, $10 per desktop, etc.

Regards

David Sanders
Remedy Solution Architect
Enterprise Service Suite @ Work
==========================
ARS List Award Winner 2005
Best 3rd party Remedy Application

See the ESS Concepts Guide

tel +44 1494 468980
mobile +44 7710 377761
email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

web http://www.westoverconsulting.co.uk


-----Original Message-----
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 12:41 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC Atrium CMDB Costs?

David,

And not to split hairs... but.... Is there any difference between:

"BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager"
and
"Atrium CMDB" (that comes with any portion of ITSM) ?


This question was discussed at last years RUG and no real answer was
supplied. (Or I at least did not get the answer.)


I mean if the cost of the "Enterprise Manger" is 1.2M and the cost of
Service Desk is more like.... 120K (Which should be a reasonable set a
user license for the SD application too.) then why would anyone buy
"Enterprise Manger"? Why not just buy Service Desk and not use the
Service Desk application?

--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.



On 6/14/07, Easter, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> > So the ITSM suite is not inclusive, with just this package?
>
> BMC Atrium CMDB Enterprise Manager does not include ITSM.
>
> However, if you buy an ITSM application like Asset Management it will
> include the Atrium CMDB.
>
>
> -David J. Easter
> Sr. Product Manager, Service Management Business Unit
> BMC Software, Inc.


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