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On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Benedetto Cantatore <
bcant...@emerginghealthit.com> wrote:

> **
> The prior posts make great points.  I'll add this bit of advice.  When
> developing the Operational Categorization, try to make sure when the tech is
> submitting a ticket that the available choices are intuitive.  The
> Operational Categorizations also need to make sense when you're doing
> reporting.  So take common ticket types and test the Op Cats by seeing if it
> makes sense both ways.
>
> Ben Cantatore
> Remedy Manager
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> >>> kbeg...@gmail.com 07/13/10 12:00 PM >>>
> **
> I am going to throw my two cents in because this is probably the hardest
> part of implementing ITSM.  make sure when you are defining these that you
> get input/buyoff from helpdesk managers, field tech managers etc....  I have
> seen companies in the past where these values where agreed upon but no one
> though of consulting with the people who actually use the application.  You
> can come up with the best Foundational data to you, or to mangement but when
> it comes time to use it, if it does not make sense to them it is going to be
> a hard roll out, not to mention inaccurate reporting from people using the
> wrong cats etc....
>
> This might go without saying, but just thought I would throw this out
> there.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Thad Esser <thad.es...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ** The CI would be server "abc.company.com" with asset tag 123, and
>> serial number 987654321-123456789.
>>
>> Product Catalog (example from one of the Topology Discovery defaults):
>>
>>    - Tier 1 - Hardware
>>    - Tier 2 - Processing Unit
>>    - Tier 3 - Server
>>    - Product Name - ProLiant DL380 G4
>>    - Manufacturer - HP
>>
>> Server abc.company.com would be categorized as a Proliant DL380.  By
>> using the product categorization on your Incidents, you can discern how
>> often the Proliant DL380s are causing issues.  Or how many times the
>> Proliant's are being changed (via Change Requests).
>>
>> Operational Catalog
>>
>>    - Tier 1 - Change (or "Add" or "Remove", etc...)
>>    - Tier 2 - Server
>>    - Tier 3 - Microsoft
>>
>> Operationally, you can track what is happening to all the Microsoft
>> servers.  Combine this with the product categorization, and you can see how
>> many issues you've had with your Microsoft Proliant DL380s.
>>
>> As has been mentioned, how each company wants to track things varies and
>> can get philosophical.
>>
>> -Thad
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Martinez, Marcelo A 
>> <marc...@cpchem.com>wrote:
>>
>>>  Just to mix things up a bit more…
>>>
>>> In ITSM training I was told that operational catalog should be
>>> <Verb><Noun><Noun>; and to use “I need to <verb> <noun> on my <noun>”. (i.e.
>>> “ I need to INSTALL SOFTWARE on my DESKTOP”).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcelo
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 13, 2010 10:27 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> *Subject:* Re: Operational vs Product Categorization
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Thanks, all responses have been useful!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Vi
>>>
>>> On Jul 13, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Thad Esser <thad.es...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  ** Its not perfect, but this is what I reduced it down to:
>>>
>>>    - Configuration Items (CIs) - The specific things in your
>>>    environment.
>>>    - Product Catalog - The different TYPES of those things in your
>>>    environment.
>>>    - Operational Catalog - The things you DO to the things in your
>>>    environment.  "Operationally" how you deal with them.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>> Thad
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Vianna Vianna <vianna...@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > **
>>> > Hello!
>>> > I've been asked to define Operational and Product Categorization and
>>> > identify the differences between the two.  I'm having a difficult time
>>> > putting it into words. Does anybody have a brief document or something
>>> that
>>> > can help explain why we differentiate now?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > Vi
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