Since the fields you are adding would be seen as "custom" fields (i.e. not 
provided out of the box as a base object from BMC), the form will need to be 
overlaid, yes.  We can certainly consider enhancing that process so that the 
form is overlaid in a more automatic manner when adding a custom field like DSO.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

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[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - dev studio (read only) cannot add fields

** Dave:
Question: is there a way to add DSO fields into a form without overlays?
IF not then why were are not these fields added by BMC and made the core before 
I have to do an overlay?
DSO is bmc's product, so I think this might just have been an overlook in the 
release of the product?
What about AIE? is AIE in the same boat?
What about IBRSD? is this in the same boat? just asking..

I could use a little clarification..

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, patrick zandi 
<remedy...@gmail.com<mailto:remedy...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Well if you do DSO you have to change the form to get the DSO fields into the 
FORM...
So I do not know where you go with that...


On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Easter, David 
<david_eas...@bmc.com<mailto:david_eas...@bmc.com>> wrote:
**
Primary reason is that you shouldn't be modifying quite a few forms... Best 
practice recommendation is:


1.       Utilize the OOTB products as delivered as much as possible.

2.       If a change in functionality is needed, add to the application - not 
modify.  Create new fields and workflow rather than modifying existing  objects.

3.       If and only if you cannot achieve desired capabilities by extending 
the application, then utilize overlays to modify the provided BMC object.

In addition, were overlays provided OOTB, then you'd have hundreds (if not 
thousands) of overlays that are exactly the same as the base objects.  Since 
the goal is to have overlays only for those objects that are modified (in fact, 
best practice is to delete any overlays that are not needed), the value of 
overlays would be diminished.  Overlays should be there only for objects that 
are modified so that they are kept to a minimum and quickly identifiable.

-David J. Easter
Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform
BMC Software, Inc.

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zandi
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:18 AM

To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: 7.6.04 - dev studio (read only) cannot add fields

**
Dumb Question:  so If you always have to do this:: Why didn't bmc in its wisdom 
create all forms with overlays automatically, since that is all you can 
change..  I am modifying quiet a few forms and my thinking cap is thinking  8-)



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