Excellent... I see a future change then..

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Easter, David <david_eas...@bmc.com> wrote:

> **
>
> Since the fields you are adding would be seen as “custom” fields (i.e. not
> provided out of the box as a base object from BMC), the form will need to
> be overlaid, yes.  We can certainly consider enhancing that process so that
> the form is overlaid in a more automatic manner when adding a custom field
> like DSO.****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:57 AM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - dev studio (read only) cannot add fields****
>
>  ** **
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> ** Dave:
> Question: is there a way to add DSO fields into a form without overlays?
> IF not then why were are not these fields added by BMC and made the core
> before I have to do an overlay?
> DSO is bmc's product, so I think this might just have been an overlook in
> the release of the product?
> What about AIE? is AIE in the same boat?
> What about IBRSD? is this in the same boat? just asking..
>
> I could use a little clarification..
>
> ****
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>  On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:41 PM, patrick zandi <remedy...@gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Well if you do DSO you have to change the form to get the DSO fields into
> the FORM...
> So I do not know where you go with that...****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Easter, David <david_eas...@bmc.com>
> wrote:****
>
> ** ****
>
> Primary reason is that you shouldn’t be modifying quite a few forms… Best
> practice recommendation is:****
>
>  ****
>
> 1.       Utilize the OOTB products as delivered as much as possible.  ****
>
> 2.       If a change in functionality is needed, *add* to the application
> – not modify.  Create new fields and workflow rather than modifying
> existing  objects.****
>
> 3.       If and only if you cannot achieve desired capabilities by
> extending the application, then utilize overlays to modify the provided BMC
> object.****
>
>  ****
>
> In addition, were overlays provided OOTB, then you’d have hundreds (if not
> thousands) of overlays that are exactly the same as the base objects.
> Since the goal is to have overlays only for those objects that are modified
> (in fact, best practice is to delete any overlays that are not needed), the
> value of overlays would be diminished.  Overlays should be there only for
> objects that are modified so that they are kept to a minimum and quickly
> identifiable. ****
>
>  ****
>
> -David J. Easter****
>
> Manager of Product Management, Remedy Platform****
>
> BMC Software, Inc.****
>
>  ****
>
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> this E-mail do not necessarily reflect those of BMC Software, Inc.  My
> voluntary participation in this forum is not intended to convey a role as a
> spokesperson, liaison or public relations representative for BMC Software,
> Inc.****
>
>  ****
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> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 08, 2011 11:18 AM****
>
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: 7.6.04 - dev studio (read only) cannot add fields****
>
>  ****
>
> ** ****
>
> Dumb Question:  so If you always have to do this:: Why didn't bmc in its
> wisdom create all forms with overlays automatically, since that is all you
> can change..  I am modifying quiet a few forms and my thinking cap is
> thinking  8-)****
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