Hi,

Very interesting. I wonder about the reasons for this "design"...

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> Hi,
>
> Some years ago I had a similar problem in ARS 7.1. The answer was: "works
> as designed" and they created a defect to correct the manuals. But I never
> verified if BMC modified their manuals.
>
> SW00301166  -- Doc bug: Server Side Table loop requires access permission
> on supporting table form REF ARS 7.1 Worfklow Objects Pg15
>
> KR Conny
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] Im Auftrag von Misi Mladoniczky
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juni 2012 19:51
> An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Betreff: Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...
>
> Hi,
>
> I missed this feature too... I usually read the release notes quite
> thoroughly, but I did not see this. Which version was it introduced?
>
> RRR|Log does not strip out anything from the logged lines, but in this
> case I checked the setting for Data Access -> Get Data As, and it is set
> to "System", not "User". So it seems like this is actually a bug then...
>
> AR System 7.6.04 SP2.
>
>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP 2011)
>
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>
>> Fred,
>> That is an interesting feature I didn't know existed....
>>
>> Misi,
>> A few choice notes from the workflow guide, page 303
>>
>> Workflow Functions
>> In addition to the Set Fields, Push Fields, and Call Guide actions,
>> setting Get Data As to User affects the workflow functions COLCOUNT,
>> COLAVG, COLMIN, and COLMAX.
>> These functions operate over the columns in a table field. When
>> performed in a guide that was called by a filter with the Get Data As
>> User set, the entries and fields used to populate columns in the table
>> field are limited to those visible to the calling user.
>>
>> And almost more importantly
>>
>> Filters with Get Data As set to User are identified in the filter log
>> file by the string "with data retrieval as user userName."
>>
>> So...being all we have access to is your RRR|Log parsed
>> portions....did this text display in the filter log?  Is the filter in
>> question set with this restriction?
>>
>> If your answer to either of those questions is No...then we have a bug
>> somewhere...I don't recognize 'MOB'...is that a custom application?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 6:54 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...
>>
>> Actually if you look at a filter in Developer Studio 7.6.04, in the
>> Properties you will see
>>
>> + Change History
>> - Data Access
>>       Get Data As
>> + Full Text Search
>> + Help Text
>> + Integration Workflow
>>
>> And the choices for Data Access are:  System  |  User
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:52 AM
>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> Subject: Re: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It turned out that if I changed the permission on the table and
>> underlying join form, the table got refreshed.
>>
>> This definitely seems like a BUG, as filters should ALWAYS run with
>> administrator privileges...
>>
>>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
>> 2011)
>>
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>>
>>> Hi LJ,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the input.
>>>
>>> In this specific case, the table is never refreshed.
>>>
>>> And I am not doing a table loop, just a Set-Fields with a COLSUM().
>>>
>>> And the really strange thing is that the behaviour differ depending
>>> on the users permission groups...
>>>
>>> I agree that there is need for more control over the filter tables!
>>>
>>>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
>>> 2011)
>>>
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>>> logs.
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>>> http://rrr.se.
>>>
>>>> Misi,
>>>> I can't speak directly to your situation, but I have seen in the
>>>> past that server table loops don't necessarily refresh the table
>>>> every time you do something with them...I have done loops before
>>>> where the table has a dynamic qualification, and you set the field
>>>> that makes it dynamic, then utilize the table...then within the same
>>>> transaction, you change that qual, and try again and it doesn't
>>>> necessarily refresh the table even though the qual, and thus the
>>>> contents should change.  Without a 'refresh table' option in
>>>> filters, I've never quite been sure how to get it done.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>>> [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 8:34 AM
>>>> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>>> Subject: Filter Table Refresh differ if Admin User...
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have a 7.6.04 SP2 system, where I am having inconsistent behaviour
>>>> in filters depending on if you are an Admin user or not.
>>>>
>>>> This is an outline of the stuff involved 1. API Call Create Entry 2.
>>>> Filter makes Service Call 3. Filter performs a Set-Fields from a
>>>> Table Column, which should always trigger a table refresh
>>>>
>>>> This is the same workflow as non-admin user, followed by an
>>>> admin-user
>>>> (Demo):
>>>> http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-nonadmin.html
>>>> #
>>>> goto
>>>> http://rrr.se/tmp/rrrlog-service-table-refresh-problem-admin.html#go
>>>> t
>>>> o
>>>>
>>>> I have some times seen strange behaviour inside of
>>>> filter-service-calls.
>>>> This could be related to that.
>>>>
>>>> How is a person to make sure that tables in filters are refreshed
>>>> properly?
>>>>
>>>> Any comments?
>>>>
>>>>         Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se (ARSList MVP
>>>> 2011)
>>>>
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>>>> http://rrr.se.
>>
>>
>>
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