Great response Dan!!! 

----- Original Message -----
From: "arslist" <arsl...@danielbloom.ca> 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:02:13 AM 
Subject: Re: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors 

As usual John, you like being a rabble rouser. 

1st: You post a WWRUG special when you aren't even a vendor there, and 
didn't attend 

2nd: Suggesting HP is a better product then half taking it back but 
basically saying no one else but you understands SSO 
Now it appears you are trying to say that a healthy discussion about support 
is a rant comparable to HP support problems, 
and it sounds like you would rather not be in the Remedy space, so why are 
you even here? 

3rd: Yes BMC did listen, they sent Jay Shankar and 6 others from the support 
team were at Evening at Engineering and were in a morning breakfast meeting, 
and if you had bothered to show up like other vendors you would have known. 

More after I get some sleep, just got back after a rather busy and very 
informative week. 

Apologies are useless: Deeds not Words. I'm sure you have heard of that one. 
Lets see how V8 goes, one company that I know of as of Tuesday had already 
gone production. 

Dan 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of John Baker 
Sent: October 20, 2012 5:09 PM 
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
Subject: WWRUG BMC Sale Rumors 

The entire HP vs BMC thing is entirely subjective. JSS came within an inch 
of an SSO Plugin sale in 2010 only to be scuppered by the organisation 
cancelling the BMC project.  And I've spoken to a couple HP customers 
complaining about HP support and asking if BMC were as bad. I pointed them 
at arslist and the huge support rant. 

On that note, did anyone from BMC apologise for the poor support documented 
by many users? I recall they were sending someone to rug to "listen".   

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