Your tax dollars at work….

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of William Rentfrow
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW

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Keep in mind the US patent office gave a patent to a guy  for a method of 
swinging sideways, which was invented by his daughter (and every kid who ever 
sat on a swing):

http://www.google.com/patents/US6368227



William Rentfrow
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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG] On Behalf Of Danny Kellett
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 11:10 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: BMC sues SNOW

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I can't see how any of these actually stand up in court. If you read the first 
patent it basically says "get the details of a computer system into a text file 
and load the information into a database"

If that's the case then Tivoli, et al, look out!

What a waste of time, money and resource imho.

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Danny Kellett
dkell...@javasystemsolutions.com<mailto:dkell...@javasystemsolutions.com>



On Tue, Sep 23, 2014, at 04:49 PM, Rick Cook wrote:
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Maybe, but legally, there is a difference between "stealing" a concept (nothing 
new under the sun) and stealing (the details) how that concept is brought to 
market.  It doesn't help that the SNOW C-team is full of people with a track 
record of unethical, if not illegal, behavior.  That BMC isn't the only 
competitor suing them adds weight to the claim.

Rick Cook

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:44 AM, John Sundberg 
<john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> wrote:
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That is a “stolen quote” …

Many people say that line.

Indirectly - it is saying - nothing is invented - just new interpretations of 
existing stuff.

Take for example: http://www.google.com/patents/US7617073

Adding colors to elements - based on health - and then make special marks based 
on a dependents components health.

This sort of seems to be previous art.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joseph_Minard#mediaviewer/File:Minard-carte-viande-1858.png
(Looks old to me)


-John


On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Rick Cook 
<remedyr...@gmail.com<mailto:remedyr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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The money quote:  "...company founder, Fred Luddy, described his approach to 
innovation by saying “. . . good artists copy and great artists steal, and I’ve 
been a thief all my life.”  Little tip:  That's maybe not something you say in 
public, Fred.

You may remember Mr. Luddy as part of the Peregrine gang, which looks to be up 
to their old shenanigans.  Details here. 
http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2013/apr/03/peregrine-ii-servicenow-insiders-including-moores-/#<http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/news-ticker/2013/apr/03/peregrine-ii-servicenow-insiders-including-moores-/>

Rick Cook

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM, John Sundberg 
<john.sundb...@kineticdata.com<mailto:john.sundb...@kineticdata.com>> wrote:
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http://www.bmc.com/news/press-releases/2014/BMC-Software-Sues-ServiceNow-for-Patent-Infringement.html



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