Here Here!!!!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "asburycouple" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Come on Allan. Tom could make a very positive impact on this
> discussion if he chose to. He has the ability to bring a different
> perspective than many others who "reside" here. On occassion I even
> agree with his perspective - usually the few times he has chosen to
> speak fact rather than distort it.
>
> The reality is he has chosen to villify people and their ideas, most
> notably and recently Jim Keady, based on half truths and outright
> distortions. The fact that I am defending JK, when I really
> disagree with just about everything he does and think he is also a
> divisive force, should be an illustration of just how ridiculously
> nasty and dishonest Tommy has been through out all of this. There
> is plenty of fact to discuss. To the point made below, becoming as
> vile and mean-spiritied in a town of this size has no place. It is
> as if Tommy believes that posting on this board is different than
> saying things to someone's face. It isn't.
>
> Please let's get back to a healthy discussion of issues, both here
> and in general.
>
> To Tommy - please stop the blatant distortions and make the good
> points you have in a way that is both constructive and credible.
> Many would listen but have stopped.
>
> To Jim - please stop the grandstanding and recommit yourself to
> bringing together differing parts of this town to everyone's mutual
> benefit. You are actually at a fundamental crossroads - to make a
> difference for this town by stepping back and bringing people
> together to meet in a place that works for everyone without leaning
> to heavily toward anyone or to polarize and grandstand to build your
> following at the expense in the end of those you claim to represent
> and those you don't. The choice is yours alone.
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <nnjallans1@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I disagree that the Tom is to blame. One issue is when someone
> does not share the same opinion as those who monopolize the board.
> I have raised questions about the 200 Blood count, the plan for
> obtaining tourism and items reported on Asbury radio. These three
> examples have gone unanswered. Rather than people asking for the
> questions they jump on things like the Casino is not rebuilt. Yes
> we all want the buildings to sparkle but there are many issues. Tom
> has supplied many answers and raised good questions. Placing blame
> solely on him is incorrect.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Hinge <hinge98@>
> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:56:20 AM
> > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: DeSeno - Clearing up the facts
> >
> > I think that the anger and viciousness that JK's wife is talking
> about is destroying this
> > message board.
> > Before Tommy came on board, this was a fun place to visit, but
> since then it's been about
> > one thing, and one thing only.
> > It's got to stop.
> > And another thing, getting your information from the Asbury Park
> Press is a big mistake.
> > Please stop this smear campaign.
> > You know what would be great, if people start talking about Asbury
> as a whole again, and
> > stop focusing on the just one issue.
> > And Tommy, I think you should leave, before you do more damage to
> your credibility.
> > You still have your website and the TCN to spread your opinions.
> Stop poisoning this
> > place.
> > Please?
> > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "kretzu" <lekretzu@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tom DeSeno - I don't think you were at the last City Council
> meeting,
> > > so here is info that you don't have, which wasn't reported by
> the
> > > Press. Jim Keady proposed that $100,000 be earmarked, set aside
> in
> > > an escrow account, from the Community Development Fund.
> Following
> > > that, the community could come forth with proposals for
> programming
> > > or for infrastructure, and the Council would determine which
> > > proposals had merit and should be pursued. He had brought this
> up to
> > > the Mayor at an earlier date. In the Press article, Mayor
> Sanders
> > > argues that Jim Keady doesn't know anyone at the West Side, and
> Nancy
> > > Shields didn't ask Jim for a comment. Jim has been involved at
> the
> > > West Side for at least a good year and a half. He has gone to
> > > meetings there, has had extensive conversations with the former
> > > Executive Director, director of fundraising and others.
> > > Unfortunately, the whole story is rarely told in the papers.
> > >
> > > On a side note - as Jim Keady's wife, I have to tell you that
> the
> > > amount of anger and viciousness on this board at the hand of Tom
> > > DeSeno and Fred (who I strongly suspect is Deputy Mayor Jim
> Bruno)
> > > has had a significant negative impact on me personally. I wrote
> a
> > > personal e-mail to Tom about this, but it doesn't appear to have
> made
> > > a difference. Criticizing an elected official's policies is good
> and
> > > everyone has a right and duty to do that. But Tom has been lying
> > > about the facts in order to turn public opinion against an
> elected
> > > official in a place that he doesn't even call home.
> > >
> > > This shouldn't be the Rush Limbaugh show. Asbury Park is 1
> square
> > > mile and more or less, we all know each other. I know the
> colleges
> > > that Jim Bruno's daughter was looking at last year. And Jim and
> I
> > > went to see Tom DeSeno's kids in Scrooged last Christmas. So
> when,
> > > on this board, you get nasty and lie or manipulate the facts,
> it's
> > > personal and it's deeply, deeply hurtful.
> > >
> > > Leslie Kretzu
> > > 608 Cookman Avenue
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > <justifiedright@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kevin are you intentionally missing the point? No one is
> saying
> > > they
> > > > don't want to give the West Side Community Center $100,000.00.
> > > >
> > > > But you can't give away $100,000.00 to a private company on a
> > > > motion, on a matter that isn't on the agenda.
> > > >
> > > > Please tell me you know that - you've run for office yourself.
> > > >
> > > > Jack - Kevin's post is a perfect example of why it was a cheap
> > > > trick. Because there are people out there like Kevin, they
> will
> > > > think that only Keady wanted to help the West Side because he
> > > rasied
> > > > the motion and the others didn't becuase they didn't support
> the
> > > > motion, when in fact they couldn't because it was procedurally
> > > wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin proves the point more perfectly than I could say it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Kevin Brown" <jerseykev@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Tommy with all due respect, I think you are tainted and
> should
> > > not
> > > > be
> > > > > attempting to act as a nuetral journalistic observer in
> these
> > > > matters.
> > > > >
> > > > > I base this on your compensation recieved from the 4 council
> > > > members
> > > > > anti Keady - to whom you owe allegiance too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, the facts associated with your post, are apparently
> the
> > > > > thoughts of a mind that has not focused fairly on the
> question
> > > you
> > > > > post. You say; you are going to "refrain" from making a
> decision
> > > > > until you hear from others, yet in your post you make your
> > > > concrete
> > > > > opinion well known.
> > > > >
> > > > > Giving the community on the west side $100,000.00 is a token
> > > > amount.
> > > > > The West Side has needed proper funding for many years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Turn your own tables over for a minute. Having Keady chair,
> > > > should
> > > > > make the transaction more palatable, unless you do not trust
> > > keady?
> > > > >
> > > > > I say this to Giordano in Long Branch all the time; "You
> have to
> > > > > decide whether you want to be a councilman or a banker,
> whenever
> > > > his
> > > > > bank and his role as a councilman/developm ent agent
> conflict. He
> > > > has
> > > > > yet to get the message, and remains in questionable status
> > > between
> > > > > his Bank and His elected office.
> > > > >
> > > > > You on the other hand - can not dare represent a nuetral
> tone
> > > > between
> > > > > the 4 councilman in with the MOB and the one outside (Keady)
> when
> > > > you
> > > > > are being paid by the inside MOB!
> > > > >
> > > > > (My MOB reference is likened to a madding crowd and not the
> > > > sicilian
> > > > > black hand of corruption in local towns and governments. )
> > > > >
> > > > > These are just my thoughts, and you should take them beyond
> a
> > > > grain
> > > > > of salt and a dash of tobasco!
> > > > >
> > > > > The best way for harmony to come to the asbury park council
> is to
> > > > > recall one of the 4 and add another member like Keady. That
> will
> > > > > give you some protection from the status quo of the last
> decade.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > KB
> > > > > www.asburyparknj. com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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