I agree. Knowing what I know now, I would not expect the city to do anything in good faith; I just wish I had not come here with blind faith! Truly, my own fault for having a good heart, and being a man of my word. Shouldn't expect others to have such ethics; even when it could be good for them,
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not expect the city to suggest where you open. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: asburyparkpedaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:48:29 PM > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting > > When Reidy told me the plan, it sounded great. A center lane with a 5 > MPH speed limit. Anyone operating outside of these guidelines would > be enforced. What's the problem? Especially since roads were not > condusive to cycling, particularly with ocean view. The other thing > that bothers me is that if Kinmon was willing to go out on a limb and > tell me I'd not have a problem with rentals; it would not have been > difficult for the city to alter ordinance to allow commercial bikes; > considering I had valid mercantile license. As for you, Fred, you do > realize that my Shop only opened to the boardwalk, right? Shouldn't > someone have at least suggested I open in a different location due to > the potential issues? > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" <hinge98@ > wrote: > > > > Why not be progressive? Exactly my thought. Bike lanes along the > beach work in many > > places, and they definitely would've worked in AP. The Strand in LA > is the best example I > > can think of. Only difference is it's concrete rather then wood. > When I lived in LA, tons and > > tons of people shared the Strand every single day without incident > because they knew, > > because of lines, that bikes and rollerbladers go here, and walkers > go there. We have the > > widest boardwalk around. Plenty of room for everyone. > > As for enforcing the rules, I had many varying encounters with > riding my bike on the > > boardwalk. In the beginning of the summer, I did it all the time, > and there were definitely > > cops present, and nobody told me to stop. Then, toward the end of > the summer, I got > > kicked off once, and like a good citizen I followed the rules. Next > thing i knew, I was the > > guy riding on the pothole ridden street, but there were still > others riding on the > > boardwalk, and nobody seemed to be enforcing that. > > Also, one thing that amazed me is that many times, the boardwalk > was nearly deserted, so > > here's a rule that keeps people from riding on a deserted > boardwalk. What is that? Even > > nobody else is there, you can't go there either. Absurd. > > As for Rita, I was at a council meeting where she began bashing > bikes, because one fricken > > person had a bad encounter. Knee jerk reaction. > > Welcome to bicycle friendly Asbury Park. What BS. > > They need to stop calling this city bicycle friendly. > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <robert@> > wrote: > > > > > > I'm saying that I would not have spent $14K on new rental units > if I > > > was told that they would enforce bike restrictions on the > boardwalk > > > in the upcoming season. You attitude towards this is exactly why > this > > > place is doomed to fail, yet again. Why not be progressive, > > > particularly when the people being attracted here to buy homes > are > > > encouraging it? You and Rita would rather argue for the sake of > > > arguing. If I say black, you'll say white > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > <robert@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you are saying if the ordinance wasn't enforced you would > have > > > > stayed? You know who you should blame then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I would have been informed beforehand, I could have changed > the > > > > > plan. But there was no reason to change the plan, as I was > > > > > encouraged. Particularly when I asked about renting prior to > > > > > purchasing the new fleet. If I was quoted as to city > ordinances, > > > > > which according to your ideals, should have been the > protocol; I > > > > > wouldn't have spent the money. But, since I trusted the word > of > > > > city > > > > > officials instead, I got screwed. Are you going to start > > > enforcing > > > > > the ordinance of no bathing attire on boards or adjacent > > > walkways? > > > > > SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT; understand, how it could be ok in the > name > > > > of > > > > > progress? No? Than enforce it! Enforce all those laws that > will > > > > mark > > > > > dark ages instead of progress in the name of being right! You > > > think > > > > > I'm just saying they said it would be OK? Ask boardwalk > merchants > > > > and > > > > > Uri K from the partners that were present at that meeting in > > > tides > > > > if > > > > > I didn't ask top cops before spending my money on new > rentals. If > > > > > they tell you I didn't, their lying! > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > > > > <robert@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is it incompenence? They has reasons didn't they. > Weren't > > > > they > > > > > > worried about people getting hurt? Weren't they worried > about > > > > > > enforcement? Go ask Rita how she felt about it. She didn't > even > > > > > want > > > > > > the time extended to noon. Why didn't this guy go directly > to a > > > > > > council meeting and demand to be heard and give his reason > for > > > a > > > > > bike > > > > > > lane. He keeps on saying "The truth as I know it" His truth > may > > > > not > > > > > > be the truth. Like Momma always says there a 3 sides to > evey > > > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our elected > > > > > officials > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > act competently in the name of the people? And if not, > > > isn't > > > > > that > > > > > > > > corruption? Furthermore, if you don't beleive there is > > > > > corruption > > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > > necessarily evidence of it; after all, a murderer > doesn't > > > > > always > > > > > > > > provide evidence, but the victim is still dead) here, > than > > > > you > > > > > > are in > > > > > > > > denial. Frustrating to know what goes on, but like you > say, > > > > > > falling > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > deaf ears of the corrupt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just have a problem making an accusation without > evidence > > > > > > regardless > > > > > > > of my suspicions. There is an inordinately large amount > of > > > > > evidence > > > > > > to > > > > > > > support incompetence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________ > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
