While I am sorry to hear about the toubles you had. You can not expect the city to suggest where you open.
----- Original Message ---- From: asburyparkpedaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:48:29 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Bike Pedaler - Worth Quoting When Reidy told me the plan, it sounded great. A center lane with a 5 MPH speed limit. Anyone operating outside of these guidelines would be enforced. What's the problem? Especially since roads were not condusive to cycling, particularly with ocean view. The other thing that bothers me is that if Kinmon was willing to go out on a limb and tell me I'd not have a problem with rentals; it would not have been difficult for the city to alter ordinance to allow commercial bikes; considering I had valid mercantile license. As for you, Fred, you do realize that my Shop only opened to the boardwalk, right? Shouldn't someone have at least suggested I open in a different location due to the potential issues? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Hinge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Why not be progressive? Exactly my thought. Bike lanes along the beach work in many > places, and they definitely would've worked in AP. The Strand in LA is the best example I > can think of. Only difference is it's concrete rather then wood. When I lived in LA, tons and > tons of people shared the Strand every single day without incident because they knew, > because of lines, that bikes and rollerbladers go here, and walkers go there. We have the > widest boardwalk around. Plenty of room for everyone. > As for enforcing the rules, I had many varying encounters with riding my bike on the > boardwalk. In the beginning of the summer, I did it all the time, and there were definitely > cops present, and nobody told me to stop. Then, toward the end of the summer, I got > kicked off once, and like a good citizen I followed the rules. Next thing i knew, I was the > guy riding on the pothole ridden street, but there were still others riding on the > boardwalk, and nobody seemed to be enforcing that. > Also, one thing that amazed me is that many times, the boardwalk was nearly deserted, so > here's a rule that keeps people from riding on a deserted boardwalk. What is that? Even > nobody else is there, you can't go there either. Absurd. > As for Rita, I was at a council meeting where she began bashing bikes, because one fricken > person had a bad encounter. Knee jerk reaction. > Welcome to bicycle friendly Asbury Park. What BS. > They need to stop calling this city bicycle friendly. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <robert@> wrote: > > > > I'm saying that I would not have spent $14K on new rental units if I > > was told that they would enforce bike restrictions on the boardwalk > > in the upcoming season. You attitude towards this is exactly why this > > place is doomed to fail, yet again. Why not be progressive, > > particularly when the people being attracted here to buy homes are > > encouraging it? You and Rita would rather argue for the sake of > > arguing. If I say black, you'll say white > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > wrote: > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" <robert@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So you are saying if the ordinance wasn't enforced you would have > > > stayed? You know who you should blame then. > > > > > > > > > > > > If I would have been informed beforehand, I could have changed the > > > > plan. But there was no reason to change the plan, as I was > > > > encouraged. Particularly when I asked about renting prior to > > > > purchasing the new fleet. If I was quoted as to city ordinances, > > > > which according to your ideals, should have been the protocol; I > > > > wouldn't have spent the money. But, since I trusted the word of > > > city > > > > officials instead, I got screwed. Are you going to start > > enforcing > > > > the ordinance of no bathing attire on boards or adjacent > > walkways? > > > > SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT; understand, how it could be ok in the name > > > of > > > > progress? No? Than enforce it! Enforce all those laws that will > > > mark > > > > dark ages instead of progress in the name of being right! You > > think > > > > I'm just saying they said it would be OK? Ask boardwalk merchants > > > and > > > > Uri K from the partners that were present at that meeting in > > tides > > > if > > > > I didn't ask top cops before spending my money on new rentals. If > > > > they tell you I didn't, their lying! > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "Fred" <asburydogma@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, "asburyparkpedaler" > > > <robert@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is it incompenence? They has reasons didn't they. Weren't > > > they > > > > > worried about people getting hurt? Weren't they worried about > > > > > enforcement? Go ask Rita how she felt about it. She didn't even > > > > want > > > > > the time extended to noon. Why didn't this guy go directly to a > > > > > council meeting and demand to be heard and give his reason for > > a > > > > bike > > > > > lane. He keeps on saying "The truth as I know it" His truth may > > > not > > > > > be the truth. Like Momma always says there a 3 sides to evey > > > story. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't it really the same thing? Can't we trust our elected > > > > officials > > > > > > to > > > > > > > act competently in the name of the people? And if not, > > isn't > > > > that > > > > > > > corruption? Furthermore, if you don't beleive there is > > > > corruption > > > > > > (not > > > > > > > necessarily evidence of it; after all, a murderer doesn't > > > > always > > > > > > > provide evidence, but the victim is still dead) here, than > > > you > > > > > are in > > > > > > > denial. Frustrating to know what goes on, but like you say, > > > > > falling > > > > > > on > > > > > > > deaf ears of the corrupt. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just have a problem making an accusation without evidence > > > > > regardless > > > > > > of my suspicions. There is an inordinately large amount of > > > > evidence > > > > > to > > > > > > support incompetence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
