You're right Allan, it'll definitely appeal to certain groups because it's a "safe" location. I doubt it brings many to other points in Long Branch though. They've kind of created their own little suburb within the town.



On Oct 11, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Allan Peterson wrote:


All have the right to their opinion. I just do find it fair to say it was the worst thing to happen when every retail store is filled and on a Saturday night in the summer, the place is packed. I am not saying I love the architecture but the developer took a chance and created a safe venue. And the city of Long Branch is collecting on it.

----- Original Message ----
From: Gary Wien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Old Man Rafferty's - My review


Hinge,

You're far from alone in hating it. Success or not, many people think it's extremely ugly and sterile - especially for something right next to the beach.



On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:00 AM, Hinge wrote:

I guess it's a matter of taste.
I hate it with a passion.
I gave it a chance, but I still think it's horrible.
And your comment about it being a destination illustrates a point close to my heart. In my opinion, living in a culture where a horrible piece of architecture becomes a destination saddens me. There's plenty of boardwalk to walk on without an overwhelming
ugly building to look at.
And Long Branch has plenty of good restaraunts to eat at that existed long before Pier
Village.
In my opinion, our consumer driven culture presents the wrong values.
I will never view a shopping center as a destination.
But that's just me. I have enough stuff. I don't feel the need to shop when i'm bored.
I think this says alot about American values. And it bums me out.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Pier Village is a destination. People go to grab dinner, walk, shop etc. The design is not perfect however it draws in people, a lot of people. Hard to say that about what was there before. Allied created a successful place out of a ruin. You man not agree with retail on the water however, I find it hard to say it was the worst thing to happen.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Hinge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:28:17 AM
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Old Man Rafferty's - My review
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> So, last night I went to Old Man Rafferty's for the first time.
> I loved it.
> The decore is dark and elegant, and the staff was really friendly. Not overly friendly,
friendly
> with dignity.
> Seating was comfortable, and the view of Cookman was cool.
> The food was really good. Great menu, interesting selections.
> We had fried Calamari as an appetizer, which was just right for 4 people. > My main course was Hanger Steak, and it was a winner. Cooked to perfection.
> For dessert, Dulche de Leche cheesecake. This was also excellent.
> Thumbs up for me. My 3 friends (my band actually) loved it too.
> Afterwards I took them for a walk around the area and they loved it. Interestingly, they
all
> began making comparisons to Long Branch and Red Bank. I said nothing. > They all lamented the changes on Broadway in LB, and all three agreed that while Red
Bank
> looks nice on the surface, the vibe there is too snooty, the restaraunts too expensive,
and the
> lack of parking annoying.
> When the conversation turned to Pier Village, I chimed in a bit, and we all agreed that
it's the
> worst thing to happen to LB in a long long time.
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