Or was that Bob Kerrey? He lost in 92, didn't he?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Cole bombing happened during the Clinton Adminsitration. > > No wonder Kerry lost the election. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <jerseyshorejohn@> wrote: > > > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > > > "KERREY: It worries me. And I wanted to make that declaration. > You > > needn't comment on it, but as I said, I'm not going to have an > > opportunity to talk to you this closely. > > And I wanted to tell you that I think the military operations are > > dangerously off track. And it's largely a U.S. Army -- 125,000 out > of > > 145,000 -- largely a Christian army in a Muslim nation. So I take > > that on board for what it's worth. > > > > Let me ask you, first of all, a question that's been a concern for > me > > from the first day I came on the commission, and that is the > > relationship of our executive director to you. > > > > Let me just ask you directly, and you can just give me -- keep it > > relatively short, but I wanted to get it on the record. > > > > Since he was an expert on terrorism, did you ask Philip Zelikow > any > > questions about terrorism during transition, since he was the > second > > person carded in the national security office and had > considerable > > expertise? > > > > RICE: Philip and I had numerous conversations about the issues > that > > we were facing. Philip, as you know, had worked in the campaign > and > > helped with the transition plans, so yes. > > > > KERREY: Yes, you did talk to him about terrorism? > > > > RICE: We talked -- Philip and I over a period of -- you know, we > had > > worked closely together as academics... > > > > KERREY: During the transition, did you instruct him to do anything > on > > terrorism? > > > > RICE: Oh, to do anything on terrorism? > > > > KERREY: Yes. > > > > RICE: To help us think about the structure of the terrorism -- > Dick > > Clarke's operations, yes. > > > > KERREY: You've used the phrase a number of times, and I'm hoping > with > > my question to disabuse you of using it in the future. > > > > You said the president was tired of swatting flies. > > > > KERREY: Can you tell me one example where the president swatted a > fly > > when it came to al Qaeda prior to 9/11? > > > > RICE: I think what the president was speaking to was... > > > > KERREY: No, no. What fly had he swatted? > > > > RICE: Well, the disruptions abroad was what he was really focusing > on... > > > > KERREY: No, no... > > > > RICE: ... when the CIA would go after Abu Zubaydah... > > > > KERREY: He hadn't swatted... > > > > RICE: ... or go after this guy... > > > > KERREY: Dr. Rice, we didn't... > > > > RICE: That was what was meant. > > > > KERREY: We only swatted a fly once on the 20th of August 1998. We > > didn't swat any flies afterwards. How the hell could he be tired? > > > > RICE: We swatted at -- I think he felt that what the agency was > doing > > was going after individual terrorists here and there, and that's > what > > he meant by swatting flies. It was simply a figure of speech. > > > > KERREY: Well, I think it's an unfortunate figure of speech because > I > > think, especially after the attack on the Cole on the 12th of > > October, 2000, it would not have been swatting a fly. It would > not > > have been -- we did not need to wait to get a strategic plan. > > > > Dick Clarke had in his memo on the 20th of January overt military > > operations. He turned that memo around in 24 hours, Dr. Clarke. > There > > were a lot of plans in place in the Clinton administration -- > > military plans in the Clinton administration. > > > > In fact, since we're in the mood to declassify stuff, there was - - > he > > included in his January 25 memo two appendices -- Appendix A: > > "Strategy for the elimination of the jihadist threat of al > Qaeda," > > Appendix B: "Political military plan for al Qaeda." > > > > So I just -- why didn't we respond to the Cole? > > > > RICE: Well, we... > > > > KERREY: Why didn't we swat that fly?" > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2007, at 5:42 PM, justifiedright wrote: > > > > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2cfup9 > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <sharon_b283@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The threat of "Islamofascists", justifies one race taking over > the > > > > country of the natives. See Eastern Europeans and Arab Jews, > > > taking > > > > over Palestine, renaming the country Israel and demonizing the > > > > Palestinians, as Islamic Fascists! The US, turns its' head the > > > other > > > > way and allows, the bulldozing of homes, the raping of women > and > > > > emasculation of Arab men! > > > > > > > > In America, same deal! Europeans occupy and take over a > country, > > > > where the natives are herded into reservations. Africans are > > > brought > > > > to this country as chattel, bought and sold, like cattle, etc. > The > > > > South grows cotton, tobacco and refines sugar, but the > industrial > > > east > > > > builds the ships, sells the insurance to the slave owners, > insuring > > > > that "their" property, if lost will be paid in premiums, for > their > > > > loss! Wall Street, is as much to blame for perpetuating the > > > system of > > > > slavery, as the South. It isn't until 100 years after the > signing > > > of > > > > the Emancipation, that the descendants of said slaves, rise up > and > > > > begin the biggest movement since the revolution. > > > > > > > > Lifelong Democrats, switch to being Republicans and 40 years > later, > > > > you have "charter" schools, siphoning off funds, from the so- > called > > > > "public" schools and parents are given "vouchers", to have > their > > > kids > > > > attend any school they want, like a "de-facto", back to > > > segregation, > > > > "legally"! Whatever any minority group or union that "bargains > > > for", > > > > their members, the government, which is anti-union and > > > > anti-integration, will find a way to un-do the progress, of > those > > > who > > > > want to live in a United States, where inclusion is the "norm"! > > > The > > > > same Neo-Cons, deride Gays, Trans-Sexuals and Lesbains, from > having > > > > inclusion into American Society, as the law-abiding citizens, > they > > > > are! While many states, have written laws, granting Gays, civil > > > > unions, I believe they should be granted the "right to marry" > and > > > have > > > > all the priviledges of married people! > > > > > > > > I say that to say this. If you vote Republican, you are voting > > > > against your OWN best interest! So keep on voting for them and > see > > > > what you get! Little boys, who behind closed doors, engage in > the > > > > SAME pleasures, that they want to DENY YOU! See the > Congressional > > > > Pages scandal, the comgressmen, who engage in affairs with > single > > > > women in their employ; one wound up dead in Rock Creek Park! > One > > > had > > > > a President impeached! The senator, who solicits sex in airport > > > > bathrooms. The lobbyists scandals, that resulted in Tom DeLays > > > > resignation, the Enron debacle, along with outing a known CIA > > > > operative and on and on! The best hypocrite, I can call to > mind is > > > > Newt Gingrich, who was impeaching Clinton, whole having an > affair > > > with > > > > one of his underlings, while his wife was battling cancer! They > > > just > > > > hate Democrats, with a vengeance! This is the "other" un- Civil > > > War, > > > > going on in Washington, now! > > > > > > > > Brought to you by fundamentalist christians, espousing "family > > > > values", when nothing could be further from the truth! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > > > > <jerseyshorejohn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > never mind. i found it: > > > > > > > > > > "The latest big lie unveiled by Washington's neoconservatives > > > are the > > > > > poisonous terms, "Islamo-Fascists" and "Islamic Fascists." > They > > > are > > > > > the new, hot buzzwords among America's far right and > Christian > > > > > fundamentalists. > > > > > President George W. Bush made a point last week of using > > > > > "Islamofacists" when recently speaking of Hezbullah and > Hamas > > > both, > > > > > by the way, democratically elected parties. 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