The Cole bombing happened in December at the end of the Clinton Administration and the Repubes wouldn't let him respond. (And you've used this discredited story, over and over, but never seem to learn from your errors)
"After the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole, evidence accumulated that it had been launched by al Qaeda operatives, but without confirmation that Bin Ladin had given the order. The Taliban had earlier been warned that it would be held responsible for another Bin Ladin attack on the United States. The CIA described its findings as a 'preliminary judgment'; President Clinton and his chief advisers told us they were waiting for a conclusion before deciding whether to take military action. The military alternatives remained unappealing to them. "The transition to the new Bush administration in late 2000 and early 2001 took place with the Cole issue still pending. President George W. Bush and his chief advisers accepted that al Qaeda was responsible for the attack on the Cole, but did not like the options available for a response. "Bin Ladin's inference may well have been that attacks, at least at the level of the Cole, were risk free." "The Yemeni government also dragged its feet in the investigation, leading to President Clinton's becoming personally involved. The U.S. government left the Yemenis in no doubt about the two alternative paths that Yemeni-American relations could take... Meanwhile in Washington neither CIA nor FBI would state the obvious: al Qaeda did it... It was difficult to gain support for a retaliatory strike when neither FBI nor CIA would say that al Qaeda did it. "Clinton left office with bin Laden alive, but having authorized action to eliminate him and to step up the attacks on al Qaeda. He had defeated al Qaeda when it attempted to take over Bosnia by having its fighters dominate the defense of the breakaway state from Serbian attacks. He had seen earlier than anyone that terrorism would be the major new threat facing America, and therefore had greatly increased funding for counterterrorism and initiated homeland protection programs. He had put an end to Iraqi and Iranian terrorism against the United States by quickly acting against the intelligence services of each nation. "Because of the intensity of the political opposition that Clinton encountered, he had been heavily criticized for bombing al Qaeda camps in Afghanistan, for engaging in 'Wag the Dog' tactics to divert attention from a scandal about his personal life. For similar reasons, he could not fire the recalcitrant FBI director who had failed to fix the Bureau or to uncover terrorists in the United States. "When Clinton left office many people, including the incoming Bush administration, thought that he and his administration were overly obsessed with al Qaeda. ⦠Why was Clinton so worked up about al Qaeda and why did he talk to President-elect Bush about it and have Sandy Berger raise it with his successor as National Security Advisor, Condi Rice? In January 2001, the new administration really thought Clintonâs recommendation that eliminating al Qaeda be one of their highest priorities, well, rather odd, like so many of the Clinton administrationâs actions, from their perspective." On Dec 27, 2007, at 8:10 PM, justifiedright wrote: > The Cole bombing happened during the Clinton Adminsitration. > > No wonder Kerry lost the election. > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > > > "KERREY: It worries me. And I wanted to make that declaration. > You > > needn't comment on it, but as I said, I'm not going to have an > > opportunity to talk to you this closely. > > And I wanted to tell you that I think the military operations are > > dangerously off track. And it's largely a U.S. Army -- 125,000 out > of > > 145,000 -- largely a Christian army in a Muslim nation. So I take > > that on board for what it's worth. > > > > Let me ask you, first of all, a question that's been a concern for > me > > from the first day I came on the commission, and that is the > > relationship of our executive director to you. > > > > Let me just ask you directly, and you can just give me -- keep it > > relatively short, but I wanted to get it on the record. > > > > Since he was an expert on terrorism, did you ask Philip Zelikow > any > > questions about terrorism during transition, since he was the > second > > person carded in the national security office and had > considerable > > expertise? > > > > RICE: Philip and I had numerous conversations about the issues > that > > we were facing. Philip, as you know, had worked in the campaign > and > > helped with the transition plans, so yes. > > > > KERREY: Yes, you did talk to him about terrorism? > > > > RICE: We talked -- Philip and I over a period of -- you know, we > had > > worked closely together as academics... > > > > KERREY: During the transition, did you instruct him to do anything > on > > terrorism? > > > > RICE: Oh, to do anything on terrorism? > > > > KERREY: Yes. > > > > RICE: To help us think about the structure of the terrorism -- > Dick > > Clarke's operations, yes. > > > > KERREY: You've used the phrase a number of times, and I'm hoping > with > > my question to disabuse you of using it in the future. > > > > You said the president was tired of swatting flies. > > > > KERREY: Can you tell me one example where the president swatted a > fly > > when it came to al Qaeda prior to 9/11? > > > > RICE: I think what the president was speaking to was... > > > > KERREY: No, no. What fly had he swatted? > > > > RICE: Well, the disruptions abroad was what he was really focusing > on... > > > > KERREY: No, no... > > > > RICE: ... when the CIA would go after Abu Zubaydah... > > > > KERREY: He hadn't swatted... > > > > RICE: ... or go after this guy... > > > > KERREY: Dr. Rice, we didn't... > > > > RICE: That was what was meant. > > > > KERREY: We only swatted a fly once on the 20th of August 1998. We > > didn't swat any flies afterwards. How the hell could he be tired? > > > > RICE: We swatted at -- I think he felt that what the agency was > doing > > was going after individual terrorists here and there, and that's > what > > he meant by swatting flies. It was simply a figure of speech. > > > > KERREY: Well, I think it's an unfortunate figure of speech because > I > > think, especially after the attack on the Cole on the 12th of > > October, 2000, it would not have been swatting a fly. It would > not > > have been -- we did not need to wait to get a strategic plan. > > > > Dick Clarke had in his memo on the 20th of January overt military > > operations. He turned that memo around in 24 hours, Dr. Clarke. > There > > were a lot of plans in place in the Clinton administration -- > > military plans in the Clinton administration. > > > > In fact, since we're in the mood to declassify stuff, there was -- > he > > included in his January 25 memo two appendices -- Appendix A: > > "Strategy for the elimination of the jihadist threat of al > Qaeda," > > Appendix B: "Political military plan for al Qaeda." > > > > So I just -- why didn't we respond to the Cole? > > > > RICE: Well, we... > > > > KERREY: Why didn't we swat that fly?" > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 27, 2007, at 5:42 PM, justifiedright wrote: > > > > > Can't believe I have to remind you... > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2cfup9 > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Sharon" <sharon_b283@> wrote: > > > > > > > > The threat of "Islamofascists", justifies one race taking over > the > > > > country of the natives. See Eastern Europeans and Arab Jews, > > > taking > > > > over Palestine, renaming the country Israel and demonizing the > > > > Palestinians, as Islamic Fascists! The US, turns its' head the > > > other > > > > way and allows, the bulldozing of homes, the raping of women > and > > > > emasculation of Arab men! > > > > > > > > In America, same deal! Europeans occupy and take over a > country, > > > > where the natives are herded into reservations. Africans are > > > brought > > > > to this country as chattel, bought and sold, like cattle, etc. > The > > > > South grows cotton, tobacco and refines sugar, but the > industrial > > > east > > > > builds the ships, sells the insurance to the slave owners, > insuring > > > > that "their" property, if lost will be paid in premiums, for > their > > > > loss! Wall Street, is as much to blame for perpetuating the > > > system of > > > > slavery, as the South. It isn't until 100 years after the > signing > > > of > > > > the Emancipation, that the descendants of said slaves, rise up > and > > > > begin the biggest movement since the revolution. > > > > > > > > Lifelong Democrats, switch to being Republicans and 40 years > later, > > > > you have "charter" schools, siphoning off funds, from the so- > called > > > > "public" schools and parents are given "vouchers", to have > their > > > kids > > > > attend any school they want, like a "de-facto", back to > > > segregation, > > > > "legally"! Whatever any minority group or union that "bargains > > > for", > > > > their members, the government, which is anti-union and > > > > anti-integration, will find a way to un-do the progress, of > those > > > who > > > > want to live in a United States, where inclusion is the "norm"! > > > The > > > > same Neo-Cons, deride Gays, Trans-Sexuals and Lesbains, from > having > > > > inclusion into American Society, as the law-abiding citizens, > they > > > > are! While many states, have written laws, granting Gays, civil > > > > unions, I believe they should be granted the "right to marry" > and > > > have > > > > all the priviledges of married people! > > > > > > > > I say that to say this. If you vote Republican, you are voting > > > > against your OWN best interest! So keep on voting for them and > see > > > > what you get! Little boys, who behind closed doors, engage in > the > > > > SAME pleasures, that they want to DENY YOU! See the > Congressional > > > > Pages scandal, the comgressmen, who engage in affairs with > single > > > > women in their employ; one wound up dead in Rock Creek Park! > One > > > had > > > > a President impeached! The senator, who solicits sex in airport > > > > bathrooms. The lobbyists scandals, that resulted in Tom DeLays > > > > resignation, the Enron debacle, along with outing a known CIA > > > > operative and on and on! The best hypocrite, I can call to > mind is > > > > Newt Gingrich, who was impeaching Clinton, whole having an > affair > > > with > > > > one of his underlings, while his wife was battling cancer! They > > > just > > > > hate Democrats, with a vengeance! This is the "other" un-Civil > > > War, > > > > going on in Washington, now! > > > > > > > > Brought to you by fundamentalist christians, espousing "family > > > > values", when nothing could be further from the truth! > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John > > > > <jerseyshorejohn@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > never mind. i found it: > > > > > > > > > > "The latest big lie unveiled by Washington's neoconservatives > > > are the > > > > > poisonous terms, "Islamo-Fascists" and "Islamic Fascists." > They > > > are > > > > > the new, hot buzzwords among America's far right and > Christian > > > > > fundamentalists. > > > > > President George W. Bush made a point last week of using > > > > > "Islamofacists" when recently speaking of Hezbullah and > Hamas – > > > both, > > > > > by the way, democratically elected parties. 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