I agree that blacks have had a bad time of it, and I feel that things are changing, although too slowly, but (always a but!) I kind of wonder about this Restitution issue. My family has farmed in up state NY near Lake George (John Brown was a neighbor for awhile) since the late 1740's , (escaping Scotland after most of the family was slaughtered by the English at Culloden) as far as I know, they never had slaves nor benefited from slave labor, as a matter of fact, quite a lot of them fought in the Civil War and a few died (No life insurance or death benefits back then). My wife is/was an Irish citizen, her parents came over during the depression to escape starvation. What is our share of this Restitution and how long do we pay it!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I appreciate the post Sharon, and your points are intriguing. Many > areas I missed. > > I'll give the matter more thought. > > Always glad to learn a few things from you, friend. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <sharon_b283@> > wrote: > > > > I read it, but it's a rehash of what I already knew. All of what > you > > wrote is true. In order for me to "find" my history, I had to > study > > it in college. You didn't mention Reconstruction and its' short > life > > after the end of the Civil War, Jim Crow until 1964, so those years > > are what's relevant to me. You don't mention the rise of Black > > Nationalism, The Panthers, The Black Muslims and other > Nationalists, > > who thought that Martins' message was too lame! Rosa Parks gets > all > > the credit for not getting up, but she wasn't the first. > > > > Since Blacks set foot in the US in 1619, until today, Blacks > revolted. > > Many of the Blacks in Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cuba and the West > Indies > > in general, may not be Americans, but I feel a kinship because of > our > > shared experiences and Mother Africa. We ALL are holding invoices, > > overdue for non-payment from wherever we landed. Restitution for > all > > of the free labor rendered for 450 years. We should move on? We > > would have if this country had treated us like your European > brothers. > > > > Each ethnic group has their own story to tell about coming into > this > > country. Blacks are unique, having been kidnapped and forcibly > > brought here. How I feel isn't the issue, though is it? Sorry, > I'm > > off message folks! > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > <justifiedright@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sharon from your post I'm not sure you clicked on the link and > read it. > > > > > > Did you? I am most curious about your thoughts. > > > > > > Here's the link again: > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q <http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q> > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <sharon_b283@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Some of the same statements you made are still relevant today. > > > > The Irish and the Italians suffered greatly, but were always > free, > > > > unlike Blacks, who continue to experience bias, as you saw in > Belmar. > > > > After 38 years, not one thing has been done to enhance and > bring back > > > > the West Side, not one thing. See Newark, Detroit and Watts, > none > > > > have ever been reconstructed! Racism is evident in all four > cities. > > > > Don't know how Chicago fared. New Orleans that never rioted, > have > > > > suffered greatly, from assumed poverty, blaming the victims, > so she > > > > will never have a majority Black population. Everything here is > > > > focused on the East Side, with the West Side as an > afterthought. Good > > > > luck on your speech. Wherever racism exists, the people in > general > > > > suffer. If I sound like I'm beating a dead horse, it's the > fact that > > > > nothing has changed, even though millions have flowed through > this > > > > city, with none of it going where it was supposed to. > > > > > > > > There are no jobs open to Blacks who make up the majority here > and > > > > very few businesses. So what's wrong? You tell me! > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright" > > > > justifiedright@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" > <sharon_b283@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So, do Blacks matter or even count, since we're discussing > > > ethnics? > > > > > > > > > > Sharon, > > > > > > > > > > Your wish is my command: > > > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q > > > > > > > > > > Probably better to leave a comment there and not here, so as > to not > > > > > tick-off Pete the Moderator. > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course you think it is Asbury related, which I > happen to > > > > > think it is (but Pete's can be a little picky). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
