I appreciate the post Sharon, and your points are intriguing.  Many 
areas I missed.

I'll give the matter more thought.

Always glad to learn a few things from you, friend.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I read it, but it's a rehash of what I already knew.  All of what 
you
> wrote is true.  In order for me to "find" my history, I had to 
study
> it in college.  You didn't mention Reconstruction and its' short 
life
> after the end of the Civil War, Jim Crow until 1964, so those years
> are what's relevant to me.  You don't mention the rise of Black
> Nationalism, The Panthers, The Black Muslims and other 
Nationalists,
> who thought that Martins' message was too lame!  Rosa Parks gets 
all
> the credit for not getting up, but she wasn't the first.
> 
> Since Blacks set foot in the US in 1619, until today, Blacks 
revolted.
>  Many of the Blacks in Brazil, Puerto Rico, Cuba and the West 
Indies
> in general, may not be Americans, but I feel a kinship because of 
our
> shared experiences and Mother Africa.  We ALL are holding invoices,
> overdue for non-payment from wherever we landed.  Restitution for 
all
> of the free labor rendered for 450 years.  We should move on?  We
> would have if this country had treated us like your European 
brothers.
> 
> Each ethnic group has their own story to tell about coming into 
this
> country.  Blacks are unique, having been kidnapped and forcibly
> brought here.  How I feel isn't the issue, though is it?  Sorry, 
I'm
> off message folks!
> 
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> <justifiedright@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Sharon from your post I'm not sure you clicked on the link and 
read it.
> > 
> > Did you?  I am most curious about your thoughts.
> > 
> > Here's the link again:
> > 
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q <http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q>
> > 
> > 
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" <sharon_b283@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Some of the same statements you made are still relevant today.
> > > The Irish and the Italians suffered greatly, but were always 
free,
> > > unlike Blacks, who continue to experience bias, as you saw in 
Belmar.
> > > After 38 years, not one thing has been done to enhance and 
bring back
> > > the West Side, not one thing. See Newark, Detroit and Watts, 
none
> > > have ever been reconstructed! Racism is evident in all four 
cities.
> > > Don't know how Chicago fared. New Orleans that never rioted, 
have
> > > suffered greatly, from assumed poverty, blaming the victims, 
so she
> > > will never have a majority Black population. Everything here is
> > > focused on the East Side, with the West Side as an 
afterthought. Good
> > > luck on your speech. Wherever racism exists, the people in 
general
> > > suffer. If I sound like I'm beating a dead horse, it's the 
fact that
> > > nothing has changed, even though millions have flowed through 
this
> > > city, with none of it going where it was supposed to.
> > >
> > > There are no jobs open to Blacks who make up the majority here 
and
> > > very few businesses. So what's wrong? You tell me!
> > >
> > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
> > > justifiedright@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sharon_b283" 
<sharon_b283@>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > So, do Blacks matter or even count, since we're discussing
> > ethnics?
> > > >
> > > > Sharon,
> > > >
> > > > Your wish is my command:
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/6yhg8q
> > > >
> > > > Probably better to leave a comment there and not here, so as 
to not
> > > > tick-off Pete the Moderator.
> > > >
> > > > Unless of course you think it is Asbury related, which I 
happen to
> > > > think it is (but Pete's can be a little picky).
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



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