Werner,

Sometimes we disagree, but your last 2 posts were terrific and spot 
on.  They were focused on your knowledge and history rather than 
telling someone they were stupid or ignorant.  Keep up the 
informational and well thought out posts and we will all be better 
for it.

Dan S.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "wernerapnj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandpiper15" <sandpiper15@> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Tracy <tracy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > My view as an outsider, a first-time visitor this past summer, 
with no
> > > previous knowledge of AP or its past/present (I usually go to 
South
> > > Jersey beaches):
> > >
> > > You needed something to fill in the blank spaces
> > > between buildings
> > 
> > Well, you have to appreciate why those spaces were there in the 
first
> > place. I may be completely off here, and Werner can fill in the
> > engineering history if I am, but I've always been of the 
understanding
> > that those spaces between the pavilions were very specifically 
designed
> > to remain open and analogous to the flared ends of the east west
> > streets. This was to facilitate both ocean views and air flow 
(in the
> > days before air conditioning) for the many hotels that would 
stretch
> > back a few blocks from the beach along each street
> >
> <http://flemingwhite.com/Historic%20Images/AsburyPark/Asbury%
20Avenue.jp\
> > g> . Even in the post-hotel age, both longtime residents and new 
condo
> > dwellers might appreciate having something to look at from their 
front
> > porches other than the back of a used Sea-Land box. This would 
be a
> > marketing point for realtors and thus a very real concern if 
it's lost
> > for good.
> > 
> =============================================================
> 
> Very astute observations.
> 
> The oldest and most significant historic element of Asbury Park is 
the
> City plan. The design and layout of the streets and public spaces 
form
> the framework, the defining character and feel, of the City.
> 
> The 'green spaces' were actually physical extensions of the Avenues
> under City (public) control just as the streets are.
> 
> The street grid and City design was duly recognized in the Historic
> Preservation Element of the City Master Plan. It is also 
recognized in
> the current Waterfront Redevelopment Plan.
> 
> In spite of that, several streets have been closed for development,
> blocking view corridors and adversely affecting traffic 
circulation.
> In addition, development of the 'green spaces' with structures and
> visual impediments is also adversely affecting the character of 
the City.
> 
> Open spaces, view corridors, parks, street arrangements, etc, all
> contribute to how a developed area is interpreted. Most often the
> effect is subtle and not even noticed by the occupants of the 
space.
> That leads to the significance of various design elements often 
being
> dismissed as not important.
> 
> That lack of awareness and absence of policy to preserve character
> defining features is degrading the quality of Asbury Park and its
> beautiful historic design.
> 
> Werner
>



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