--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "justifiedright"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandpiper15" <sandpiper15@>
wrote:
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> > False dichotomoy. Myths can have great meaning.
>
> True, but the Tillie one doesn't.
>
It all depends on your perspective I guess.
> You said 1955 and 1960. The links above are folks remembering the
> 1920's and 1930's.
>
> Notice the bad memories were NOT about the West Side. The ice cream
> story was about the boardwalk.
True, but the realtor said her family couldn't live near the water. I
read that as her family was expected to stay west of the tracks. And
I think Rainette Holliman is very explicit when she talks about her
experiences in Asbury Park Village. She had many happy memories, but
she also makes it clear what her economic situation was and how that
affected where her family lived.
But fair enough. The years weren't exactly the same. I picked the 50s
because I am trying to mathematically square when people who are now
in their 50s and early 60s may have visited Asbury as kids. But it's
hard for me to believe that the very rigid policies regarding race
and geography from the earlier part of the 20th century didn't at all
affect life along Springwood and Prospect well into mid-century, even
if they were no longer officially enforced.
>
> So what do you think life on the west side was like in 1955 and
1960?
>
A close reading of those oral histories makes me think that the kids
got along well enough, but the older folks probably hewed to certain
unwritten social codes of race and class that were a world away from
the carousel, tilt-a-whirl and bumper cars. That was the point I was
trying to get at. A 9 or 10 year old from New York or Hudson or Essex
County in 1960 hears "Asbury Park" and he or she thinks, literally, a
park. An amusement palace. A fantasy land. They weren't thinking
about the fact that it was also a real, residential town, with real
issues to be faced just like any other place.
Sometimes I can get a little obscure. I apologize.
>
> I see; you were be metephorical. You turn a very good phrase. Have
> you done a lot of writing?
Yes. On here. Probably too much. ;)
> > Ensuring everyone in the city could benefit from, or (if they so
> > wished) take advantage of, the city's natural and man-made
>resources,
> > regardless of color, orientation or economic background.
>
>
> Who made that promise to whom?
Thomas Jefferson, to all of us.
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