In a message dated 11/12/2008 10:22:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oak, From the article Mario posted, he pulled out one quote: "The only person in the administration with any credibiliy..." Then he followed that with something about "Strawman" which of course was a recent bone of contention on this board involving both him and me. Be fair. Don't pretend you didn't see that in his post. He was trying to bait me back into an argument of national politics with the usual personalization of me mixed in. I'm trying to be respectful of Pete and the rest of you and not take his bait. Trying to be respectful of Pete and the rest, so moving on from it. Regarding foreclosures as an "Asbury issue." Using that standard, most anything happening in national politics is an Asbury issue. But I know the intent of the rule better. Pete is looking for things more concretely localized. What is really affecting my life anyway is my inability to gather myself together over my depression caused by the lights on the outside of The Berkeley. ============================== It's not always about you, Tom. The ability to spot a Strawman is a useful skill and shorthand across the board, especially when a debate gets down to "He said, She said." A few people here found the term handy. Marks' comment that "For three years she's been saying to everybody, 'It's the foreclosures, stupid. We have to make the mortgages affordable'" was directly connected to Oak's thread. It's powerful phrasing,but it didn't deserve quotes because she never used those exact words; but soon cyberspace will be littered with sites taking as gospel that she said that. To notice such mechanics is not everyone's schtick, but it is mine. I've spent a lifetime teaching critical research and language skills, so it's second nature to me. You have your skills, and I have mine. The Berkeley lights reference isn't a reference to a recent bone of contention? It isn't personalizing? It isn't baiting? Are we to pretend that it's not all of them? And it is respectful? Trying not to take the bait? But if it were bait, you did take it? "I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him." Right. Google "Asbury Park" and "foreclosures" to see just how concretely localized it might be. I saw the "80 lis pendens" Jennifer just mentioned. You know the intent of Pete's rule. You know my motives, what I was trying . You know the right standard. And you're always right 'cause you're Justified Right. Right? Right. Moving on. **************Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000001) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
