They should also add a stipulation that if the kids get in trouble (not sure
how many "strikes" to give), that the whole family is forced to leave their
subsidized housing. Let the parents take responsibility for raising their kids.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote:
>
> The quality of life issues you mentioned will never change until they knock
> down the projects and replace it with new affordable housing, just like
> Newark did in 2008, it reduced crime in that area, homelessness, unemployment
> and the kids actually attended and did well in school. So many cities across
> the nation have modeled renovation after Corey Bookers plan with excellent
> results, Memphis being the latest to do so
>
> Those issues tend to bring out my conservative side. I don't have all the
> answers, but putting stipulations on welfare, such a kids grades meeting
> certain requirements, drug testing etc may be a good start. Maybe require
> parents to volunteer certain amount of hours at the schools too
>
> Those are tough issues with no black and white answers
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Downing <mkdow...@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:24:31
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....
>
> As a relatively new resident to AP (one of those who bought into Wesley Grove
> in
> 2009), I'm not sure how much new residential construction the town can
> support
> right now. I think the biggest challenge and most important thing that needs
> to
> be done is to make our retail and commercial sectors viable - not just in a
> "non-conformist" manner like the TriCity News continually advocates, but with
> an
> eye towards providing goods and services that benefit all residents. The key
> to
> growing any city is making the infrastucture viable.
>
> We've got a significant number of restaurants in operation (most of which are
> pretty good), but we need more businesses that reach beyond select niches and
> appeal to a broader range of customers and residents. The schools need help,
> there is still a significant issue of homelessness and crime, kids need more
> activities to get them off the streets, and we need to do a better job of
> making
> this one community. Above all else, we have to find a way of attracting jobs
> and new businesses to the community.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "cbrianwatk...@..." <cbrianwatk...@...>
> To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 12:22:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....
>
>
> To be honest, I don't even know where 3000 condos would go, how many are in
> Wesley Grove?
>
> I don't mind my commute into JC, and a lot of people I work with live in
> Interlaken, Bradley etc
>
> The schools are a major issue for me though, once my fiance and I get to that
> point in our lives, ill be a weekender very quickly, I refuse to pay for
> private
> schools, and there's not a shot in hell my kids would go to our school system
> in
> its current
>
> conditions
>
> I know quite a few families who have passed on AP strictly because of the
> schools (they were ok with the crime) but the schools were a deal sealer
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "dfsavgny" <dfsav...@...>
> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:55:30
> To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Not in AP.....
>
>
>
> --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote:
> >
> > Another thing that needs to be considered, and I know Oak has mentioned
> > this
> >before
> >
> > If there were to be 3000 condos built, who is to say 2500 of those units
> >wouldn't be bought as "2nd Homes" for Summer usage . We see this a lot as it
> >is
> >with the single family homes. Condos would be more appealing for this due to
> >maintence and such.
>
> I will say it again, it will be very very hard for AP to attract 3,000 year
> round households. NJ is loosing jobs like crazy. You need to be within easy
> commuting distance to an employment center, or create a place where people
> will
> want to live despite the commute or they are retired or independently
> wealthy.
> And for families, its a chicken and egg thing. To get families you need good
> schools. And the latter will only happen is when you get more of a mix of
> families in AP to be involved with the school and their children's education.
> So
> if you build a lot of condos, you will depend upon weekenders not necessarily
> summer people. I am a weekender. A lot of us that own houses here are. We
> don;t
> work nearby and so we can't live here full time.
>
>
>
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