--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatk...@... wrote:
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> I know quite a few families who have passed on AP strictly because of the 
> schools (they were ok with the crime) but the schools were a deal sealer 


It is a chicken and egg thing like I said. Tommy DeSeno outlined it here a 
couple of years ago. AP schools became defacto segregated. If the grammar 
schools get turned around the high school will follow. But AP schools share the 
same socio-economic problems as most urban schools in poor neighborhoods. How 
do you fix it? Short of gentrification which really does not solve the problem 
for those who move out to another non-gentrifying area, no one has seem to come 
up to the answer. So I see AP for some years as not being a full time family 
place. Solve the school equation and you have it licked.

But you know, as long as the schools are made safe, they would be okay. I 
assume there are a lot of dedicated teachers. My neice just started teaching at 
Hope and she is excellent and a former NYC teacher who taught in similar 
neighborhoods. My daughter teaches in Brooklyn (special ed) and her students 
are mainly immigrant children. I see the tide turning already with many 
immigrants going to AP schools in uniforms.  

And if we are honest with ourselves, a lot of it is just WHITE FEAR. And I am 
no one to talk because my kids went to catholic schools while even living in a 
white middle class neighborhood. But me and my wife went to catholic grammar 
and high schools and so did our kids.



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