Who was your friend with the great grandmother? Was her name Pam Linda or 
Colleen? Could be my grams

She moved into AP in 1920


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-----Original Message-----
From: "Jenni" <je...@lowcountrybunny.com>
Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 17:46:01 
To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Asbury Park (was RE: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me)

Hey, "Oakdorf," I grew up on Unami... don't know your age, or even your
name, but maybe we knew each other :)

I went to Ocean, class of '88.

On another note, I could care less about race as well.  I grew up so close
to the Asbury bridge, spent lots of time on and near the boardwalk growing
up, always went to the Asbury beach when I was a kid.  I loved the
architecture from the time I was tiny, everything from the façade of
Convention Hall, the copper of the Casino, to the big Victorian homes not
far from the beach.

As a young adult, I lived at 301 Sunset, first in a small second floor
apartment, and then in the larger 1st floor apartment.  And yes, we had both
white and black (and a Hispanic family briefly when I first moved in)
residents in the building, and we all got along just fine.

I live in SC now, moved for work some years back, and would love to go back
to NJ.  I looked into it a couple of years ago, but I cannot begin to afford
it.  One alternative would have been to live in Asbury, since it's cheaper.
Why didn’t I?  The crime.  I realize that if the crime were eradicated, then
it probably would no longer be remotely affordable.  But it's far too scary
as it is, and I don’t want to have to live with that fear day to day.  I'm a
single woman, disabled, and not as able to defend myself as I was at one
time.  And these days, they don't just beat you up, they all have guns, even
the kids.  

I miss Asbury.  I joined this group because of that.  I would really like to
see something done to make it a nice place again.  

I remember when I was a kid, my friend's great grandmother used to tell us
stories about Asbury Park when she was a newlywed and moved there with her
husband.  This would have been in the 19-teens or so.  I don’t remember the
specifics of what she told us, really wish I'd recorded all she had to say!
But, I do remember the general feeling of all she described.  What a
fabulous place.  And it can be, again.  

FYI, racism is awful here in Charleston.  Worse than anywhere else I've ever
lived.  It's one of the many reasons I want to get away from here.  Here,
all the whites hate the blacks, and the blacks hate the whites... or if it
isn’t outright hatred, at the very least they ignore one another... it is
crazy.  I don’t see why we can't just all get along.  We're all people.

I have no idea, unless someone brings it up, what color anyone on this board
is.  For all I know, some of you could be green with pink polka dots.  I
could care less.  What I do care about, is Asbury Park, and as long as
everyone is busy squabbling about what color they are, nothing will change.
I realize that since I'm not a current resident there, there's not a lot I
can do to help, but I'd like to if the opportunity arises.  Those of you who
are current residents have much more power in this, because you're the ones
electing the city officials.  There are solutions, it's just a matter of
finding them, and seeing that they get implemented.

So, you all are also on here because you care about this city.  I am
guessing that I'm not the only one who lives afar, but it sounds like plenty
of you are locals and have more pull with city officials.  Let's drop the
color remarks, and put our heads together, come up with some ideas, and do
all we can to get them implemented!  And by all means, please do let me know
if there is anything I can contribute despite not having been a resident for
several years.

Thanks, and

Namaste~

Jenni

PS - if you're not familiar with "Namaste", it means something like this:
"The divine spark within me bows to the divine spark within you, because it
recognizes its sameness"
Let's look at the "sameness" rather than differences :)

-----Original Message-----
From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of oakdorf
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:24 PM
To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Black Like Me

sharon you always have great input and you managed to raise good kids - with
your husband from what you've shared with us through the years.

So I want to share something with you as a whitey...

I always tell people I grew up in AP. Why? Little kid we lived on wanammasa
point rd, then we moved away - then back to wanamassa. 

My grandmother moved from our house to 2nd Ave then to Asbury Towers when it
was ready. So we grew up all around AP. In wanamassa (colonial terrace) we
we had to successful Asbury Park african american businessmen on our street.
when my father went off to africa for work (not making that up) in my
teens... these two men were there for me to make sure I stayed out of
trouble and listened to my mother.

So time goes on and I have kids. For the past probably 9 years, and now in
the summers, my son's best friend stays with us. African American. Nothing
funnier then when my summer neighbors see him walking out of my house and me
walking in and him saying "hi dad....".

So he left a few days ago and hopefully does well in U of South Carolina. I
like to think that I had SOME input as he was pretty much without a real
dad. He's come along way from stealing a pencil from cost cutters (and
getting caught) and having to explain it to me.

And I know, it's not the same as living it and breathing it everyday.

But let's skip the racist remarks. 









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