When I lived in Jersey City there was NEVER issues, its a proven method Again, inquire with other cities like have done. It works
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "dfsavgny" <dfsav...@yahoo.com> Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:33:31 To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking Perhaps I do not understand you because unless you make Hinge's block resident only, it does not solve the problem. If its meter or permit, when there are events, Hinge cant park even though he has a permit. If you make it permit only, you lose revenue or you have that problem on another block whether you make it free or with meter and permit. Anything you do will have issues. You have a beach. You want visitors to come? You need parking. Charge for it I say whether its resident or visitor. If we want to make the town resident only, then do it. You will hear screams. Cookman is a perfect example. Cars hog the spots because there are no limits. This will always bring you back to the compatibility issue and knowing what you are getting into. If I live over a bar I will probably have some disruptions. If I live in Manhattan, or urban areas, I will probably have an issue finding a parking space. When I was a kid in Park Slope, there were not 10 cars on the block. We sat on curbs and had the whole street to play stickball. Gone. 7 years ago I had the whole of the beach almost to myself on a 98-degree day on July 4th. Gone. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > All the city needed to do was inquire with other cities in NJ > > I did some research on this when you first brought up the topic > > I found ONE municipality that has parking meters, AND charges their residents > the way AP does. 30+ other cities/towns that have meters followed the same > guidelines, which were $15-25 for year round permits and designated > residential parking > > > Its really not rocket science, but this is AP, not a great record when it > comes to common sense > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Hinge" <hinge98@...> > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:56:22 > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking > > "designated area" - That's been my argument all along. Thanks for reinforcing > that. > > If I bought the $30 permit this summer, it would have been useless during > Summer Stage events, or busy weekend days. All it would do would hold me > hostage in a parking space on my block. My next door neighbor, who bought the > permit, experienced this every weekend. He'd park out front of his home, and > if he left for a few hours (like most of us) to do grocery shopping or > anything else, he'd return to our block being completely filled. The permit > states that it's only good for the block on which it's issued. So this leaves > the permit holder to park a block or more away. Meanwhile, most of the spaces > on Bergh and on the 300 block of 1st were being used by boardwalk employees. > This is exactly what I predicted would happen. > > In my opinion, the city did little or no research into this issue. Perhaps > they could've done a parking survey to see how many people actually own cars > on the affected blocks. On mine, that amounts to 3 cars in the summer, 2 in > the winter. All the other residents on my block live in housing that includes > a parking lot. > > Meanwhile, they installed a parking sign post at my curb 6 months ago. It > still stands there, without a sign. > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: > > > > I do not believe in paid parking for residents unless it is a $15 year > > round permit just like every other city in NJ does, pay for a sticker, be > > able to park in a designated area > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Hinge" <hinge98@> > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:39:26 > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking > > > > Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. > > > > Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), > > what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until > > midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? > > > > My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and > > Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will > > see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. > > > > Does this make sense to anybody? > > > > I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 > > choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the > > corner, or on the 300 block. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > From NYT > > > > > > Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN > > > <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/> > > > Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when > > > Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, > > > it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. > > > [The Day] The Day <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/> > > > Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. > > > > > > To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of > > > movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his > > > horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In > > > Australia, the No Parking Meters Party > > > <http://noparkingmetersparty.org/> came into being a few years ago, > > > running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan > > > that "the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy." > > > > > > Writing about the final curtain > > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ > > > arking-meter.html> for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the > > > day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum > > > alluded on Monday to the 1967 film "Cool Hand Luke > > > <http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ > > > 838C679EDE> ." In its opening scene, the title character, played by > > > Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for > > > drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. > > > > > > Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it > > > cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating > > > each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free > > > spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of > > > their more soulless creations. > > > > > > Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had > > > they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter > > > from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that > > > meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain > > > in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the > > > city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to > > > be the rule everywhere. > > > > > > The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can > > > run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious > > > perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You > > > don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one > > > in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my > > > apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want to rush > > > off to buy something to fill the space. > > > > > > Throughout Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt for a > > > perfect spot, one where a driver may leave the car for days without > > > fear of a summons, is no less an obsession than the pursuit of the > > > white whale was for Ahab. > > > > > > Politicians certainly understand this. It helps explain why, over the > > > years, they have steadily expanded the exemptions to the alternate-side > > > parking rules, usually in the name of paying tribute to some religious > > > or ethnic group. > > > > > > The Transportation Department now recognizes 32 holidays > > > <http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/motorist/scrintro.shtml#calendar2011> > > > , with a total of 42 days, when the rules are suspended and sanitation > > > trucks are thus unable to sweep. It is one of New York's > > > peculiarities that the chosen method for honoring various > > > constituencies is to leave the streets dirty. > > > > > > With a run of Jewish, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Hindu and legal holidays > > > upon us, there will be a 44-day stretch, from Sept. 29 to Nov. 11, > > > during which alternate-side parking regulations will be lifted > > > one-third of the time. > > > > > > For me, the rebel's romantic concept of parking meters as an enemy > > > no longer holds, if it ever did. An opposite thought is more dominant: > > > Why is public space, a most precious commodity in this city, allowed to > > > be used as a private storage area? > > > > > > Years ago, I asked in a column if it would be all right for a New > > > Yorker in a crowded apartment to put a chest of drawers on wheels and > > > leave it at curbside > > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/nyregion/nyc-alternate-side-of-realit\ > > > y-parking-rules.html> observing all parking rules and taking a > > > chance on theft. The very idea was, of course, absurd; you can't > > > store personal property on the street. > > > > > > Why, then, is it O.K. to do that when the wheeled property is called a > > > car? > > > > > > If public space is to be used for this private purpose, perhaps what > > > the city needs to do is greatly expand the areas where people must pay > > > for the privilege. > > > > > > Not that this could be done without fierce resistance from some on the > > > City Council and in the State Legislature. Generally speaking, when it > > > comes to the proper place of the automobile in this crowded city, what > > > we have, as Cool Hand Luke found out in his own way, is a failure to > > > communicate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! 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