I checked, it is citywide essentially. And I see a problem. There are non-resident permits as well for $300 limited to one vehicle. A resident permit requires you to register your car in JC. I am an honest person. AP is not my permanent address for tax purposes not to run afoul of NYS. It will not be for a lot of residents. Although I pay over $10k in real estate taxes here, I don't even file my taxes here but pay the higher NY taxes. I pay higher NY insurance for cars etc. I am not alone.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@... wrote: > > When I lived in Jersey City there was NEVER issues, its a proven method > > Again, inquire with other cities like have done. It works > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@...> > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:33:31 > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking > > Perhaps I do not understand you because unless you make Hinge's block > resident only, it does not solve the problem. If its meter or permit, when > there are events, Hinge cant park even though he has a permit. If you make it > permit only, you lose revenue or you have that problem on another block > whether you make it free or with meter and permit. > > Anything you do will have issues. You have a beach. You want visitors to > come? You need parking. Charge for it I say whether its resident or visitor. > If we want to make the town resident only, then do it. You will hear screams. > Cookman is a perfect example. Cars hog the spots because there are no limits. > > This will always bring you back to the compatibility issue and knowing what > you are getting into. If I live over a bar I will probably have some > disruptions. If I live in Manhattan, or urban areas, I will probably have an > issue finding a parking space. > > When I was a kid in Park Slope, there were not 10 cars on the block. We sat > on curbs and had the whole street to play stickball. Gone. > > 7 years ago I had the whole of the beach almost to myself on a 98-degree day > on July 4th. Gone. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: > > > > All the city needed to do was inquire with other cities in NJ > > > > I did some research on this when you first brought up the topic > > > > I found ONE municipality that has parking meters, AND charges their > > residents the way AP does. 30+ other cities/towns that have meters followed > > the same guidelines, which were $15-25 for year round permits and > > designated residential parking > > > > > > Its really not rocket science, but this is AP, not a great record when it > > comes to common sense > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "Hinge" <hinge98@> > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:56:22 > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking > > > > "designated area" - That's been my argument all along. Thanks for > > reinforcing that. > > > > If I bought the $30 permit this summer, it would have been useless during > > Summer Stage events, or busy weekend days. All it would do would hold me > > hostage in a parking space on my block. My next door neighbor, who bought > > the permit, experienced this every weekend. He'd park out front of his > > home, and if he left for a few hours (like most of us) to do grocery > > shopping or anything else, he'd return to our block being completely > > filled. The permit states that it's only good for the block on which it's > > issued. So this leaves the permit holder to park a block or more away. > > Meanwhile, most of the spaces on Bergh and on the 300 block of 1st were > > being used by boardwalk employees. This is exactly what I predicted would > > happen. > > > > In my opinion, the city did little or no research into this issue. Perhaps > > they could've done a parking survey to see how many people actually own > > cars on the affected blocks. On mine, that amounts to 3 cars in the summer, > > 2 in the winter. All the other residents on my block live in housing that > > includes a parking lot. > > > > Meanwhile, they installed a parking sign post at my curb 6 months ago. It > > still stands there, without a sign. > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, cbrianwatkins@ wrote: > > > > > > I do not believe in paid parking for residents unless it is a $15 year > > > round permit just like every other city in NJ does, pay for a sticker, be > > > able to park in a designated area > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: "Hinge" <hinge98@> > > > Sender: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:39:26 > > > To: <AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com> > > > Reply-To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reflections on Parking > > > > > > Thanks for posting this. I read it yesterday. > > > > > > Since we're talking about parking ( I know I'm annoying with this topic), > > > what do you or does anybody else feel about keeping year round until > > > midnight paid parking on the 200 blocks west of Kingsley? > > > > > > My answer is easy. Take a drive to my block, 1st Ave between Bergh and > > > Kingsley, on any day, at any time between now and Memorial Day. You will > > > see what looks like an abandoned street. Absolutely ZERO demand. > > > > > > Does this make sense to anybody? > > > > > > I have a friend coming to visit Friday night to play Scrabble. She has 2 > > > choices - pay $2 or $3 to park out front, or park in the dark around the > > > corner, or on the 300 block. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <dfsavgny@> wrote: > > > > > > > > From NYT > > > > > > > > Reflections on a Parking Meter By CLYDE HABERMAN > > > > <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/author/clyde-haberman/> > > > > Not to make too much of a relatively minor event, but when > > > > Manhattan's last old-time parking meter was yanked down on Monday, > > > > it meant the end of a symbolic target for some rebellious spirits. > > > > [The Day] The Day > > > > <http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/category/the-day/> > > > > Clyde Haberman offers his take on the news. > > > > > > > > To them, parking meters represent an infringement of their freedom of > > > > movement. Did anyone in the Old West make a cowboy pay to tie up his > > > > horse outside the saloon? Nor is this solely an American notion. In > > > > Australia, the No Parking Meters Party > > > > <http://noparkingmetersparty.org/> came into being a few years ago, > > > > running candidates in state elections in New South Wales with a slogan > > > > that "the basis of democracy is non-dictated policy." > > > > > > > > Writing about the final curtain > > > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/nyregion/uprooting-the-old-familiar-p\ > > > > arking-meter.html> for the parking meter in Manhattan, 60 years to the > > > > day after the first one was installed, my colleague Michael M. Grynbaum > > > > alluded on Monday to the 1967 film "Cool Hand Luke > > > > <http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=EE05E7DF1738E260BC4A53DFB767\ > > > > 838C679EDE> ." In its opening scene, the title character, played by > > > > Paul Newman, is arrested and dispatched to a prison road gang for > > > > drunkenly lopping off the heads of meters with a pipe cutter. > > > > > > > > Back in 1967, some people in the New York theater where I saw it > > > > cheered as Luke went from meter to meter, methodically decapitating > > > > each one. To them, it wasn't an act of vandalism. It was a free > > > > spirit's rebellion against those in power, by attacking one of > > > > their more soulless creations. > > > > > > > > Perhaps those same people would have pumped their fists joyfully had > > > > they witnessed the uprooting of Manhattan's last single-space meter > > > > from its post on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. Not that > > > > meters have disappeared from the city. Hardly. Tens of thousands remain > > > > in other boroughs. But they are doomed, too. In a year or so, the > > > > city's Transportation Department expects multispace Muni-Meters to > > > > be the rule everywhere. > > > > > > > > The relationship between some New Yorkers and their parking spaces can > > > > run deep, even as the city becomes ever more bicycle conscious > > > > perhaps especially as the city becomes more bike conscious. You > > > > don't have to own a car to understand that. I haven't owned one > > > > in 33 years. Yet an available parking spot right in front of my > > > > apartment building is so alluring that it almost makes me want to rush > > > > off to buy something to fill the space. > > > > > > > > Throughout Manhattan and in parts of other boroughs, the hunt for a > > > > perfect spot, one where a driver may leave the car for days without > > > > fear of a summons, is no less an obsession than the pursuit of the > > > > white whale was for Ahab. > > > > > > > > Politicians certainly understand this. It helps explain why, over the > > > > years, they have steadily expanded the exemptions to the alternate-side > > > > parking rules, usually in the name of paying tribute to some religious > > > > or ethnic group. > > > > > > > > The Transportation Department now recognizes 32 holidays > > > > <http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/motorist/scrintro.shtml#calendar2011> > > > > , with a total of 42 days, when the rules are suspended and sanitation > > > > trucks are thus unable to sweep. It is one of New York's > > > > peculiarities that the chosen method for honoring various > > > > constituencies is to leave the streets dirty. > > > > > > > > With a run of Jewish, Roman Catholic, Muslim, Hindu and legal holidays > > > > upon us, there will be a 44-day stretch, from Sept. 29 to Nov. 11, > > > > during which alternate-side parking regulations will be lifted > > > > one-third of the time. > > > > > > > > For me, the rebel's romantic concept of parking meters as an enemy > > > > no longer holds, if it ever did. An opposite thought is more dominant: > > > > Why is public space, a most precious commodity in this city, allowed to > > > > be used as a private storage area? > > > > > > > > Years ago, I asked in a column if it would be all right for a New > > > > Yorker in a crowded apartment to put a chest of drawers on wheels and > > > > leave it at curbside > > > > <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/30/nyregion/nyc-alternate-side-of-realit\ > > > > y-parking-rules.html> observing all parking rules and taking a > > > > chance on theft. The very idea was, of course, absurd; you can't > > > > store personal property on the street. > > > > > > > > Why, then, is it O.K. to do that when the wheeled property is called a > > > > car? > > > > > > > > If public space is to be used for this private purpose, perhaps what > > > > the city needs to do is greatly expand the areas where people must pay > > > > for the privilege. > > > > > > > > Not that this could be done without fierce resistance from some on the > > > > City Council and in the State Legislature. Generally speaking, when it > > > > comes to the proper place of the automobile in this crowded city, what > > > > we have, as Cool Hand Luke found out in his own way, is a failure to > > > > communicate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! 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