>DD: You need to rephrase your sentence thus- I just tried to show that
>there >exist similarities between Al Qaeda and ULFA and I 'll agree with
>you >wholeheartedly. Both are terrorist organizations and both are
>fighting for >causes that only they  believe in. Rest of the world thinks
>they are wrong.


*** No amount of rephrasing is going to change the facts of the matter. The
entire problem with Indian nationalists is that they attempt to deal with
issues as matters of semantics.

AlQaeda is a collection of disparate elements, from many nations, whose aim
is to destroy the USA. They are not people held under the rule of the USA
against their wishes.

That is not the same for the Nagas, not for the Assamese freedom
fighters,not the Kashmir sovereignty seekers. It takes a lot to miss such a
profound distinction. Only those whose minds are already made up  and can't
see the other person's viewpoint in a flash, or even taking their own sweet
time, could miss that.



>What does it imply ....... the aim to destroy USA is
>the only thing that makes an organization terrorist
>.... Else , what was the reason to bring up the
>issue of destroying the USA .....


*** The same explanation as above.



>>It is INDIA that has been
>> attempting to destroy
>> Kashmiri sovereignty movements.
>
>That is your view and there are many who DO NOT buy
>your views. Ma! y be they ought to be shot by your
>innocent friends teh perpetrors of AkshayDham and
>the like.
>DD: The turnout at the recent polls shows that the insurgents are holding
>Kashmiris hostage. The same is true in Assam as shown by the fact that
>even Assamese villagers are beating up ULFA agents.

*** Talk about jumping to conclusions. Now that the polls are over in
Kashmir, IS the Kashmiri problem over? If not why?

IF Indians and the  Assamese establishment and their expat supporters are
SO SURE that the ULFAs aims don't resonate withn the people, why is India
so paranoid about letting the people of Assam discuss it opnenly, freely,
and then hold an election to discredit ULFA, in order to bring closure to a
savaged society? What scares India so to do that?



>DD: What is the meaning of "did not spawn to Destroy India" ? Declaring
>war >against India as ULFA has done in its newsletters, that too against
>the wishes >of the majority of the people in Assam is an act of destroying
>India.


*** In English, it means that ULFA or NSCN or other similar orgs. were NOT
formed with the express intent for destruction of India, a country where
these people do not live in, under or near, as opposed to those who call
themselves Al Qaeda, and are dedicated to the destruction of the USA. Hope
that is a bit more understandable.

If ULFA, NSCN, Kashmiri movements, etc. are destroying India, then India
ought to be able to do something to diffuse the reasons for it; assuming
India considers them fellow citizens with a set of grievances. Has it?



>Blasting pipelines, killing Indian citizens (that includes Assamese as
>well) >and stopping economic progress of As! sam (an Indian state) - they
>are all acts >of destruction. In my estimate the intent is the same as
>bringing down WTC with >an intent to destroy USA.


*** The destructive actions did not materialize suddenly one dark and
stormy night to wreak havoc on the Indian state. India knew what was
coming, but not only did nothing to prevent it, in fact assured its coming
thru its own actions. ALL acts of destructions are not the same. To equate
Al Qaedas destruction of WTC with ULFA or Naga or Kashmiri acts of war
against the Indian State is to display a degree of naivette, unbecoming of
an informed individual.





****************************************************************************




At 6:21 PM -0800 11/18/02, D Deka wrote:
>K,
>
>You have several valid points. It is pointless to argue with someone whose
>mind is made up and can't see the other person's viewpoint even in a
>flash. MY comments below are in blue and italic.
>
>DD
>
> Krishnendu Chakraborty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta wrote:
>> >Did anyone claim that ULFA is aiming to destroy the
>> >USA or is it that it is bad if someone destroys
>> the
>> >USA but nothing wrong if they destroy India ?????
>>
>>
>>
>> It was not *I* who attempted to equate Kashmiri or
>> Assam insurgency
>> movements to Osama BL's AlQaeda. Did I?
>
>Definitely NOT you ..... but the question is WHY
>AlQaeda is bad while ULFA is not .... you ought to
>answer that.
>
>I just tried to show that there exists a link between
>AlQaeda and ULFA .
>
>
>
>DD: You need to rephrase your sentence thus- I just tried to show that
>there exist similarities between Al Qaeda and ULFA and I 'll agree with
>you wholeheartedly. Both are terrorist organizations and both are fighting
>for causes that only they  believe in. Rest of the world thinks they are
>wrong.
>
>>
>>
>> And WHO claimed, or implied that attempts to destroy
>> the USA is bad but
>> good if it is India.
>
>Read your posting again ...
>
>>same as AlQueda, with an
>> >> aim of destroying the USA?
>
>What does it imply ....... the aim to destroy USA is
>the only thing that makes an organization terrorist
>.... Else , what was the reason to bring up the
>issue of destroying the USA .....
>
>
>>It is INDIA that has been
>> attempting to destroy
>> Kashmiri sovereignty movements.
>
>That is your view and there are many who DO NOT buy
>your views. Ma! y be they ought to be shot by your
>innocent friends teh perpetrors of AkshayDham and
>the like.
>DD: The turnout at the recent polls shows that the insurgents are holding
>Kashmiris hostage. The same is true in Assam as shown by the fact that
>even Assamese villagers are beating up ULFA agents.
>
>>And it has been
>> Indian actions that has
>> given rise to Assam and the NE's myriad of
>> insurgency movements. Not the
>> other way round. ULFA or NSCN or the other NE
>> insurgencies did not spawn
>> to DESTROY India.
>
>Same as above .
>DD: What is the meaning of "did not spawn to Destroy India" ? Declaring
>war against India as ULFA has done in its newsletters, that too against
>the wishes of the majority of the people in Assam is an act of destroying
>India. Blasting pipelines, killing Indian citizens (that includes Assamese
>as well) and stopping economic progress of As! sam (an Indian state) -
>they are all acts of destruction. In my estimate the intent is the same as
>bringing down WTC with an intent to destroy USA.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
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