Trust you to bring your spin to the table somehow :-)
> But it all boils down to one thing: There is no
> sense of one nation.
> Each different entity is out to protect its own
> turf, in whatever way
> it is possible.
> Compound the problem with an absence of a
> functioning state machinery
> that can resolve such issues fairly and timely.
My experience is that there is indeed a sense of one
nation amongst vast sections of people cutting across
regions and communities. In an earlier generation when
opportunities were few, people protected their turfs
resulting in continually diminishing returns. Groups
that have identified opportunities have moved forward
with openness and have benefited - guess how many
Assamese young boys and girls would be there in
Bangalore?. The others that have continued to use
methods of the past languish. In certain parts the
state machinery functions relatively better, I must
say.
> Therein lies the living-in-denial of the
> pan-Indianist middle class
> who have it made. They have little to be concerned
> about and thus can
> talk of bigger things, like getting respect from the
> world as a power
> of some sort, if not a super one, even if it means
> doing so on the
> backs of the insecure who they never hesitate to
> deride so.
My experience of the pan-Indianist middle class - and
I am one of them - is different. The best reflection
of popular, middle class opinion would be the new Shah
Rukh Khan movie Swades where the view point is that a
whole lot needs to be done to yet earn the respect of
the world. We are in a big mess. But getting out of
this mess does not need revolutions. All it needs is
for us to apply what we have better. And there is more
than ample proof of that working.
You might want to see the movie. It is a tad slow,
though.
> At 6:10 PM -0800 12/20/04, Rajib Das wrote:
> >Dear Mr. Chetia,
> >
> >All I pointed out was that the AASU was
> instrumental
> >in beating up Bihari candidates (from Assamese
> >newspaper reports). And so was the Shiv Sena. That
> was
> >the similarity.
> >
> >For the record, I support the view that jobs in the
> >lower level for federal organizations should go to
> >local candidates.
> >
> >I, however, doubt very much if a Shiv Sena like
> >approach to things ever helps.
> >
> >Rajib
> >
> >--- Prasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Mr. Das;
> >> What AASU did with the jobseekers was a debated
> >> issue and if you see
> >> all the underlying truth it was a counter attack
> to
> >> a big conspiracy
> >> which the big bosses of railways did for their
> kins
> >> of bihar. Biharis
> >> were called all over india for interviews, does
> it
> >> happen the same way
> >> in bihar, no it is not. I was doing a project of
> UTS
> >> implemented under
> >> the whims and fancies of Nitish Kumar, the then
> >> railways minister who
> >> competed Ram Vilas Paswan. They had setup
> railway
> >> division HQs is
> >> danapur and patna with huge investments which
> are
> >> only 2hrs apart in
> >> distance. These favortism goes on and it is a
> long
> >> story. The beating
> >> up issue is only a pitfall. I don't think ,
> anybody
> >> could have
> >> stopped the guys from bihar to appear in
> guwahati
> >> where the boys from
> >> assam or entire NE seeking the same were not
> called
> >> for appearing the
> >> exam with no reason to explain.
> >>
> >> I think if you have to save your existence, you
> have
> >> to be a little
> >> bit of "jatiatabadi". All others have that,
> >> otherwise you will have to
> >> leave your identity and forget what you were.
> >>
> >>
> >> Prasenjit
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:50:09 -0800 (PST), Rajib
> Das
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > Isn't the Assam Sena a rip off of the
> obviously
> >> > original one - Shiv Sena of Bal Thackeray? I
> don't
> >> > know where the emulation will begin from - but
> in
> >> its
> >> > essence it is a fire and brimstone Hindu
> >> chauvinist
> >> > party (and earlier, beating up of the
> "madrasis"
> >> in
> >> > Mumbai). The 2 constant factors in the party
> >> was/is to
> >> > use street power to hit at opponents of
> various
> >> hues
> >> > and the party president for life with absolute
> >> powers
> >> > for life. The other thing was the constant
> over
> >> the
> >> > ground extortion business that the Shiv Sena
> >> indulged
> >> > in.
> >> >
> >> > AASU and Shiv Sena have had similarilities in
> the
> >> > recent past - the latest one being the beating
> up
> >> of
> >> > Bihari job seekers in Railways.
> >> >
> >> > I wonder what the liberals on this board would
> say
> >> > about such an idealogy, if indeed Assam Sena
> has
> >> such
> >> > an idealogy. I also wonder whether some of
> them
> >> would
> >> > be ok with such an idealogy in Assam when they
> are
> >> on
> >> > the right side of the spectrum.
> >> >
> >> > Finally it is a bit ironic - the original Sena
> >> (Aka
> >> > the Shiv Sena) is somewhat on geriatric row
> what
> >> with
> >> > Bal Thackeray being old and ill and their
> street
> >> thugs
> >> > being outnumbered by others in Mumbai because
> the
> >> city
> >> > has moved on.
> >> >
> >> > Rajib
> >> >
> >> > --- J Kalita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I am glad that an "Assam Army" is being
> formed.
> > > > > Although the name has
> >> > > the word "Army" in it, it is essentially a
> >> peaceful
> >> > > movement trying to
> >> > > protect the interests of Assam and the
> >> inhabitants
> >> > > of Assam. The
> >> > > interests of Assam and the inhabitants of
> Assam
> >> are
> >> > > in many ways in
> >> > > odds with the interests of India and the
> >> > > inhabitants of India, and in
> >> > > fifty five years of independence from the
> >> British,
> >> > > India has not been
> >> > > able to figure out a formula to balance the
> two.
> >> So,
> >> > > we need some home
> >> > > grown movement to do so. I would urge the
> "Assam
> >> > > Army" (Oxom Xenaa) not
> >> > > work by emphasizing strikes, bandhs, etc.,
> but
> >> > > possibly study
> >> > > successful movements for independence such
> as
>
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