Hi Denis, Advice: 1. Ask for Bank Guarantee for substantial amount 2. See if they can offer terms to you , if not then be guided by that old adage - "You see yourself in shaving mirror".
Directors of the companies can be pursued personally under civil as well as penal code for wrongful trading. Best wishes, Mohammed > <html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; > font-size:10pt;"><div>Hi Andy and Everyone in this Forum,</div> > <div> </div> > <div>Of course Andy we are very Angry. Last Year in total we lost over 30K > USD and Asia Telecom and BroadTelephone 3K USD invoice is part of > it. This has effect our business process to do much more > verification in giving post pay/prepay and it has become almost > impossible find out who is geniune and who is not.</div> > <div> </div> > <div>Even though These two companies are registered in UK and USA its > managed and owned by Pakistan guys (nothing personal to > Pakistanies) so my point is we can not judge a company from where it > is registered.</div> > <div> </div> > <div> </div> > <div> So I bilieve most effective way to minimize frauds is to > keep close contact with trusted partners and their frauds, so you can keep > away from frauds.</div> > <div> </div> > <div> </div> > <div>Thanks,</div> > <div>Dennis S.</div> > <div>DialOnTel Team </div> > <div><A href="http://www.dialontel"></A> </div> > <div> </div> > <div> </div> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: verdana" > webmail="1" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: > 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: verdana"> > <div >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] > India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful<BR>From: Andy Spring > <andy...@gmail.com><BR>Date: Sun, November 01, 2009 5:15 am<BR>To: > Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk > Discussion<BR><asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com><BR><BR><img > style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 > src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" > goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" > mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 > wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img > style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 > src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" > goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" > mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"> Haha... Maybe Dennis is very angry > with them, but what make me suprised is that the frauds are from UK and > USA, whose reputation are good and they also think themselves come with > good reputation, but also rubbish <img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 > wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img > style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 > src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" > goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" > mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" height=15 src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail" width=12 > wbeuser="i...@dialontel.com" goomoji="360" mce_style="MARGIN: 0px 0.2ex; > VERTICAL-ALIGN: middle" mce_src="cid:360@goomoji.gmail"><BR><BR> > <DIV class=gmail_quote>2009/10/31 <SPAN dir=ltr><<A > href="mailto:i...@dialontel.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:i...@dialontel.com">i...@dialontel.com</A>></SPAN><BR> > <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px > 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; > MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"> > <DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana" > mce_style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana"> > <DIV>Hi All,</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>DO NOT sell any minutes to BroadTelepone or AsiaTelecom. They have a > pending invoice to us for last 8 months 3000 USD. Our company name is > DialOnTel. we were seling India to them. These companies are > fraud based in UK and USA. AsiaTelecom UK is currently on > liquadation.</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Sikander - Director, Faruk -Tech guy never response to our calls or > emails. </DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>DO NOT Give post pay to them.</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>My name is Dennis from DialOnTel.</DIV> > <DIV><A href="mailto:den...@dialontel.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:den...@dialontel.com">den...@dialontel.com</A></DIV> > <DIV><A href="mailto:i...@dialontel.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:i...@dialontel.com">i...@dialontel.com</A></DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Sikander if you see this email you are most welcome to contact me as > you never response to our emials or calls.</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <DIV>Thanks,</DIV> > <DIV>DialOnTel Team</DIV> > <DIV> </DIV> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: verdana" > mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: verdana"> > <DIV>-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] > India VoIP termination<BR>From: Sikander Saeed <<A > href="mailto:sikan...@asiatele.net" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:sikan...@asiatele.net">sikan...@asiatele.net</A>><BR>Date: > Fri, October 30, 2009 4:04 pm<BR>To: Commercial and Business-Oriented > Asterisk Discussion<BR><<A href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" > target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com</A>><BR><BR>BroadTelephone > is based in USA and involve in wholesale and retail VoIP services in USA, > Canada and UK since last decade. We are looking for quality route to > India. Our targets are:<BR><BR>India 919 mobile $0.0110<BR>India > 9194 > $0.0125<BR>India ROC 91 $0.0150<BR>India > Cities > $0.0130<BR><BR>Our daily traffic is about 25,000 minutes per day. Please > let us know if you can provide such service.<BR><BR>Sikander > Saeed<BR>BroadTelephone, Inc.<BR><A href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/" > target=_blank > mce_href="http://www.broadtelephone.com/">www.broadtelephone.com</A><BR><BR><BR>Mitul > Limbani wrote: > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue > 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>Brian, > > So if I m correct this would be a one of retail customer who needs to > call their indian partner company? > > Please email me in a bit more detail off the list, coz we have helped > several US based companies optimize their communication cost to their > indian counter part or indian offshore units. > > And I think we can help your customer too. > > Thanks & Regards, > Mitul Limbani, > Founder & CEO, > Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd., > The Enterprise Linux Company (r), > <a href="http://www.enterux.com/" target=_blank > mce_href="http://www.enterux.com/">http://www.enterux.com</a> > <a href="http://www.entvoice.com/" target=_blank > mce_href="http://www.entvoice.com/">http://www.entVoice.com</a> > > On 27-Oct-2009, at 7:30 AM, "Brian Franklin" <A > href="mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net"><bfrank...@ntginc.net></A> > wrote: > > </PRE> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue > 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>I have an executive that needs low cost > minutes to a partner firm in > India. Clear calls and low cost is the primary concern. > > Brian > > -----Original Message----- > From: <A href="mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com">asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com</A> > [<a href="mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com">mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com</a>] > On Behalf Of mtlvoip > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:48 PM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] USA to India > > > with what kind of features and in which level of price are your > looking > > for? > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Brian Franklin" <A href="mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net"><bfrank...@ntginc.net></A> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:32 PM > To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" > <A href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com" target=_blank > mce_href="mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com"><asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com></A> > Subject: [asterisk-biz] USA to India > > </PRE> > <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue > 2px solid" type="cite" mce_style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; > BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid"><PRE>Looking for quality international SIP > termination...particularly to > India. > > Any suggestions? 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