>From our experience escrow is not good choice either. Other side can argue that service was bad/unusable and you will not get paid for it.
Regards, Mindaugas Kezys http://www.kolmisoft.com VoIP Billing and Routing Solutions -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Vlasis Hatzistavrou (KTI) Sent: 2009 m. lapkričio 2 d. 13:54 To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE Careful Just my 2 cents: there are escrow, exchange & clearinghouse services that one can use in order to secure business. Simple prepay/postpay nowadays is too dangerous, not only with small & unknown operators but even with large & well known carriers. They too will dispute just about anything... Best regards, Vlasis Hatzistavrou. Andy Spring wrote: > Hi Dennis, first I am sorry to hear your bad news, but i can give you > some suggestion, most of business men are trust parterns, only very > little are frauds, yes, sometimes, it is very difficult to find out who > is sincerely and who is not, but you can test them from a very small > order starting after you have dealt many many small business > succesfully, then start big orders or stop contact with them. > > 2009/11/2 <i...@dialontel.com <mailto:i...@dialontel.com>> > > Hi Andy and Everyone in this Forum, > > Of course Andy we are very Angry. Last Year in total we lost over > 30K USD and Asia Telecom and BroadTelephone 3K USD invoice is part > of it. This has effect our business process to do much more > verification in giving post pay/prepay and it has become almost > impossible find out who is geniune and who is not. > > Even though These two companies are registered in UK and USA its > managed and owned by Pakistan guys (nothing personal to > Pakistanies) so my point is we can not judge a company from where it > is registered. > > > So I bilieve most effective way to minimize frauds is to keep close > contact with trusted partners and their frauds, so you can keep away > from frauds. > > > Thanks, > Dennis S. > DialOnTel Team > <http://www.dialontel/> > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination - FRAUD- BE > Careful > From: Andy Spring <andy...@gmail.com <mailto:andy...@gmail.com>> > Date: Sun, November 01, 2009 5:15 am > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com > <mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>> > > Haha... Maybe Dennis is very angry with them, but what make me > suprised is that the frauds are from UK and USA, whose > reputation are good and they also think themselves come with > good reputation, but also rubbish > > 2009/10/31 <i...@dialontel.com <mailto:i...@dialontel.com>> > > Hi All, > > DO NOT sell any minutes to BroadTelepone or AsiaTelecom. > They have a pending invoice to us for last 8 months 3000 > USD. Our company name is DialOnTel. we were seling India to > them. These companies are fraud based in UK and USA. > AsiaTelecom UK is currently on liquadation. > > Sikander - Director, Faruk -Tech guy never response to our > calls or emails. > > DO NOT Give post pay to them. > > My name is Dennis from DialOnTel. > den...@dialontel.com <mailto:den...@dialontel.com> > i...@dialontel.com <mailto:i...@dialontel.com> > > Sikander if you see this email you are most welcome to > contact me as you never response to our emials or calls. > > Thanks, > DialOnTel Team > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] India VoIP termination > From: Sikander Saeed <sikan...@asiatele.net > <mailto:sikan...@asiatele.net>> > Date: Fri, October 30, 2009 4:04 pm > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com > <mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com>> > > BroadTelephone is based in USA and involve in wholesale > and retail VoIP services in USA, Canada and UK since > last decade. We are looking for quality route to India. > Our targets are: > > India 919 mobile $0.0110 > India 9194 $0.0125 > India ROC 91 $0.0150 > India Cities $0.0130 > > Our daily traffic is about 25,000 minutes per day. > Please let us know if you can provide such service. > > Sikander Saeed > BroadTelephone, Inc. > www.broadtelephone.com <http://www.broadtelephone.com/> > > > Mitul Limbani wrote: >> Brian, >> >> So if I m correct this would be a one of retail customer who needs to >> call their indian partner company? >> >> Please email me in a bit more detail off the list, coz we have helped >> several US based companies optimize their communication cost to their >> indian counter part or indian offshore units. >> >> And I think we can help your customer too. >> >> Thanks & Regards, >> Mitul Limbani, >> Founder & CEO, >> Enterux Solutions Pvt. Ltd., >> The Enterprise Linux Company (r), >> http://www.enterux.com <http://www.enterux.com/> >> http://www.entVoice.com <http://www.entvoice.com/> >> >> On 27-Oct-2009, at 7:30 AM, "Brian Franklin" <bfrank...@ntginc.net> <mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> I have an executive that needs low cost minutes to a partner firm in >>> India. Clear calls and low cost is the primary concern. >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com <mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com> >>> [mailto:asterisk-biz-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of mtlvoip >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:48 PM >>> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion >>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] USA to India >>> >>> >>> with what kind of features and in which level of price are your >>> looking >>> >>> for? >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Brian Franklin" <bfrank...@ntginc.net> <mailto:bfrank...@ntginc.net> >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 9:32 PM >>> To: "Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion" >>> <asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com> <mailto:asterisk-biz@lists.digium.com> >>> Subject: [asterisk-biz] USA to India >>> >>> >>>> Looking for quality international SIP termination...particularly to >>>> India. >>>> >>>> Any suggestions? >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com/>-- >>>> >>>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com/>-- >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com/>-- >>> >>> asterisk-biz mailing list >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >>> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com <http://www.api-digital.com/>-- >> >> asterisk-biz mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com-- <http://www.api-digital.com--/> > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com-- <http://www.api-digital.com--/> > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > -- > andy > andy...@gmail.com <mailto:andy...@gmail.com> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by > http://www.api-digital.com-- <http://www.api-digital.com--/> > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > <http://www.api-digital.com--/> > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > -- > andy > andy...@gmail.com <mailto:andy...@gmail.com> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
