Re: Let's really dig in to Tolkiin and Lord of the Rings,

[[wow]], Dark - I was planning on answering Arq's question, but I see that is not necessary. As for Maiar present and active in Middle-earth during the Third age, you've probably covered it - though (and this is a bit of Tolkien lore I'm admittedly hazy on) isn't Tom Bombadil probably a Maia as well? And given that Goldberry is referred to as the daughter of the river, I'd assume she is, too. And obviously all the other Maiar were still "around" - just not around in the sense that they were necessarily active or present in Middle-earth. As for Galadriel, I think you're right that she's the oldest living Elf, though I think it's vaguely possible that Cirdan is as old as she. Unfortunately, generational lines don't tell you much, and since the Silmarillion rarely says when people were born relative to one another, it's difficult to say. All we know is when people were first mentioned, and who their parents were, and that re ally doesn't give us much to go on.  For example, who's to say none of the first-generation Moriquendi (the Elves who never made the first pilgrimage to Valinor) aren't still around? Maybe Thranduil's older than everyone, haha.

Arq, concerning swords from the movie, I am not ashamed to admit I have a few. They are some remarkably cool props, and I don't think there's anything wrong with owning them - it's not like having one incredible swordsmith's interpretation of Anduril is your way of saying "Clearly, this is what Tolkien wanted Anduril to look like." So I wouldn't be dissuaded by those who were ragging on the films, and various prop inaccuracies.

On that note, if I may caution against letting a really interesting discussion of the books turn into "Let's hate on the movies," I will now take the opportunity to do so. Were the films perfectly faithful to the source material? Of course not. To ex pect them to be would be to expect films that would fail utterly in every market imaginable. However, are they some of the best book-to-film adaptations in terms of remaining true to the spirit of the original work and, in comparison to many other novel to film adaptations, overwhelmingly full of and faithful to content from the novels? I would say, unequivocally, yes. If you have ever attempted to adapt a literary work into another medium, you will appreciate the overwhelming complexity of the task - and the more you appreciate that, the harder it is to see anything but master artistry and deep, deep love of the books in Peter Jackson and company's work.

Now, if they'd let Arwen fight in Helm's Deep like they wanted...that would have been unforgivable. tongue

At any rate, I still want The Silmarillion as a TV series/miniseries.

Ar

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