Archimago wrote: > I responded to that article beginning with the "Yeah.. Rrrright..." > comment suggesting an ABX with upsampled 16/44 --> DSD128 (very easy > with Weiss Saracon for example) vs. native DSD128. He didn't seem to > want to go there. Oh well... > > It's also possible that the Mytek just sounds better for DSD input > rather than PCM (unlikely). Again, we'll never know from articles like > this because the "clowns" refuse to engage in exploration of the > possible explanations. > > hey, you wouldn't happen to be 'zjaj', would ya :-)? > > Personally, I think the DSD train has sailed a long time ago and there's > no way it's going to achieve mass acceptance. Having ripped and recoded > many SACD's, I really find no real audible difference (hey, if folks > have difficulty differentiating decent bitrate MP3 vs. 16/44, good luck > between DSD64 and 24/88!) and the fact that so many are just obvious > upsampled 44kHz PCM really is not doing the format any favours. Even a > classic like Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" which should have been a show > piece of analogue to high-def DSD from ~2000 with the introduction of > SACD turns out to be just a PCM conversion among many others I've made a > note of. > > I don't believe we've even seen one successful ABX comparing upsampled > 16/44 to DSD64 vs. the native DSD64 of the same mastering & same > volume. > > IMO, DSD64 is inadequate compared to hi-res PCM, and there's just no way > at this point DSD128 is going to make any significant inroads in the > commercial space. Furthermore, almost any multitrack recording that > needs good editing tools would NOT benefit from DSD. This leaves purist > recordings direct to DSD (eg. Diament's Soundkeeper, Blue Coast, maybe > some 2L) and analogue to DSD conversions as the only sources which would > not need PCM at some point. Let them talk up DSD as much as they want, > it's unlikely to matter in the end.
+1 your DAW suite is going to have it all as floating point 32bit or 64bit And i don't get the arguments for recording every track as DSD all "problems" in recording PCM is done away by higher bitrate PCM ADC at 24/96 for example . And DSD is not a very efficient way of encoding information as explained lot if has to be filterad away by advanced noise shaping at playback ? I also wonder if multitrack DSD mixing is even possible then we have ultrasonic gunk from multiple sources ? best practice would be to filter and convert to pcm then to floating point numbers ? Here I don't actually know the deatails ? But my question is what problem was DSD originally set out to solve and is it really a problem (with modern PCM) ? I very much doubt that . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97545 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles