RonM wrote: > Well, what I am saying is that we have to be careful drawing conclusions > based only on subjective experience. Maybe those high priced bits > actually work, but I would be very reluctant to believe this without > properly controlled evidence. > > Ron
What about the subjective -design process- of some of the high price bits . best case scenario as suggested by ralphy the $$$ goes down a sink hole and does nothing the high price powercord performs the same as the cheapest one . Worst case , the "designer" throws away conventional science and make up his own reality and built things like audio note ongaku that cost more than some peoples homes and is outperformed by stuff found at the local flea market. The in-between case the product is fine but $$$ is added due to some applied pseudoscience over designing power supplies is for example a benign but costly add on , good ps is the way to go but at a point it is good enough for the circuit is should power. And objective design process would yield better products for the same money or the designer would just stop throwing money at problem when performance goals where met. For example seriously how much can simple thing like preamp really cost ? Naim NA552 any one ? or http://www.antelopeaudio.com/en/products/Rubicon-Atomic-AD-DA-Preamp for only 40k$ Or in many cases the design process is not subjective at all it is only getting totally perverted by the belief system of the audiophiles it serves :) you got all your wishes fulfilled, now just fork up the dough. And it can be an engineering challenge to this ,using archaic parts and strange topologies and still make a working design ,but not to good you must add some choice thd and noise to get the desired signature sound of some brands . And speaking of subjective factors not much of the high price stuff is wrapped up drap tin can looking boxes, this suggests that the manufacturer of much of this stuff knows that this is an important factor for their customers :) A very important one, Theory : there is a certain "design language" a way the serious audio should look like this has developed over time . But this has also gone ott and is just cheesy to me . If i get enormous amounts of cash i would be cool to collect classic hifi just because they look cool (not the modern retro styled stuff ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97489 _______________________________________________ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles