Justin and others

One of the benefits of simple regulations is that they will inherently contain less internal conflicts. In this case the conflict is between the norms for aircraft certification and the operational rules. "Everyone" in Certification knows that the TCDS (Type Certificate Data Sheet) is sacrosanct and only an amendment to the type certificate (STC or supplemental type certificate) can override it.

However, particularly something that was type certificated several decades ago in a country that at the time was not fully aligned with the more modern (and lesser in number) "international' standards may have items included that are relevant to the operating rules of the country of origin rather than design integrity. Cloud flying in glider was not only permitted, but regularly encouraged, in eastern Europe post WW2, so including the T&S or an AH in the TCDS rather than the operational equipment list was not considered wrong. Hopefully the current FAR and EASA certification standards are sufficiently clear to distinguish between operational role integrity equipment and basic design integrity requirements.

However, when the Poles brought their gliders here for the 1974 and 1987 Worlds, they had a competition rule that prohibited all blind-flying instruments, and knowing this, they removed them from the gliders. So the SP-registered PZL gliders that entered those comps were in breach of their TCDS and you can bet the Polish airworthiness authority did not think to issue an STC to allow them to fly clear of cloud without a T&S!

For many years the GFA has had exemptions against the standard schedules of instrument requirements for powered aeroplanes granted by CAO 95.4 to vary CAO 100.18 - but as an appropriate operating rule, nobody thought (and I was one of them at the time) to go into details of type certification for foreign gliders, particularly when the old Department had agreed that the GFA was capable of managing its own affairs, and the intention of the rule was rarely defeated by someone reading the literal content out of context. Not so any longer - particularly in a litigious society where everybody wants to admit no blame and obtain a legal ruling supporting their interpretation of a poorly-written old rule. Such is the problem of a society where every rule has to be written with no room for interpretation, no legislator has room for any discretion lest they run foul of someone's view of "fairness" and gross-scale bias verging on corruption (think banks, tax havens and the construction industry) is ignored by the "ruling classes" whilst people faff around the edges worrying about whether a T&S is necessary for safe operation of a Jantar but not of a Janus; whether a yaw string satisfies an operational requirement for a slip indicator; not to mention whether GPS has made the magnetic compass redundant (there are serious international musings on whether to base global navigation on true north by satellite data in lieu of the old Greek lodestone).

My two bob's worth on this!

Wombat

On 21/04/2016 9:55 AM, Justin Couch wrote:
On 21/04/2016 8:40 AM, emillis prelgauskas wrote:
There was a very good reason that gliding had ‘exemptions’ globally in the Regulations. To avoid this mismatch between commercial aviation and our sport specific needs.

It's probably worth some time to chat with you privately to get some details on where these can be found. Unfortunately I am now far more intimate with both Oz and international airworthiness regulations than I really would like to be. If these exemptions do exist written down that you are claiming, I cannot find them, nor can anyone else at the GFA - perhaps they went up in smoke with the rest of our paperwork a few years ago?

The regulatory framework that existed in the utopian past has changed, rather dramatically on us, so things that may have been in place before just don't work any more - if we can find the documentation of them at all. I see a lot of what is happening now as no different to then - someone finds yet another stupid rule, everyone mulls it over for a time, an exemption gets made according to the paperwork framework of the day, everyone shakes hands and moves on.

I'd like to understand how you find this particular issue (T&B on MEL) any different to the fire-extinguisher example you cite. Both seem to involve a silly rule that doesn't apply to us, someone working out a way to get an exemption within the rules of the day, and everyone just moves on (and then 30 years down the track someone recounts it as a funny story of "Kids these days! Back in my day....").

Including that the best results are achieved when GFA told CASA to stick it - that we are the experts in our sport, which needs to operate in specific ways in order to be safe.
Remember the primacy - SAFETY.

And, they in turn can tell us the same and stop gliding in it's tracks completely, or make it so financially uncomfortable for us to have the same effect. Neither is a good outcome for us. So, work out when to bend with the wind, and when to stand firm against it. Everyone has a different interpretation of that point.

We, luckily, have some very good people on the GFA side that know the system inside and out as they deal with it professionally every day. So, when weird stuff like this happens, they already know what to do and slip in that extra one sentence into our paperwork so that the guys on the ground like you and I can continue to operate mostly unaffected.

How does making the paper mound higher and in multiple mounds (the compliant, the interpreted work around, the reality) contribute positively to this? The argument that ‘society demands this’ is so hollow - as if the public bystander leaning on the aerodrome fence is able to tell the operator how to do things because of the unformed opinions - regulation by social media.

The utopia of the good old days no longer exists and we do have to put up with this stuff whether we like it or not. I bet 40 years ago the elders of the time were decrying "adding more mounds of paperwork" too, comparing it to pre-WWII gliding. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Yes the world is getting more litigious (specially insurance companies!). On top of that, we now have a bunch of know-it-alls on social media condemning everything that can gut something almost instantaneously regardless of good intentions or not of the target. We can't live in a vacuum and pretend the world doesn't exist around us. If genetics have much to say, I have at least another 40 years of enjoying this sport - I'd like to still be able to have that option should I, and all the younger guys I'm trying to mentor, be interested.

Anyway, I'll shoot you (emillis) a private email to see what we can dig up from historical paperwork and get into electronic form and weave into the current reality.


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