I’m alright Jack, too.

Not exactly to the collective benefit of glider pilots though, is it?

  - mark


> On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> lucky i have a PPL... i guess i have options 
> 
>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 3:26 PM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> why register it [an electric self-launcher] as a glider?
>> 
>> Because the GFA system only authorizes pilots trained by GFA to fly 
>> GFA-registered gliders that have been maintained under the GFA airworthiness 
>> system.
>> 
>> So if you register it as a light aircraft, you can’t fly it until you make 
>> it airworthy to GA standards, and acquire (at least) an RPL.
>> 
>> The GFA syllabus is not aligned with the RPL syllabus, so that means you 
>> have to pay a CASA school to be trained all over again to legally fly the 
>> aircraft that you would be able to fly if you were under the control of a 
>> GFA CFI as a member of a GFA club (typical cost for a GA RPL syllabus is 
>> about $7000, plus whatever you need to pay to get a cross-country 
>> endorsement). 
>> 
>> If you already have a pilot license and you’ve never encountered GFA before, 
>> you might be able to buy an electric self-launcher, register it GA, and fly 
>> it under an RPL. 
>> 
>> But only if it’s brand new. If it has previously been maintained under the 
>> GFA form-2 system, it won’t be airworthy to GA standards, and probably 
>> couldn’t be flown at all by anyone regardless of their license status. You’d 
>> have to pay a LAME a considerable amount of money to bring it under the GA 
>> maintenance umbrella and issue it with a GA maintenance release.
>> 
>> And once you’ve done that, GFA pilots without CASA licenses wouldn’t be able 
>> to fly it anymore, so you’d have extreme difficulty ever selling it again 
>> afterwards.
>> 
>>> Is there a choice?
>> 
>> In practical terms: No.
>> 
>> 
>>> its has over 200Klm battery range and it takes off from the ground, sounds 
>>> like a light aircraft to me
>> 
>> Then only a tiny minority of GFA members (who have RPL or PPL CASA licenses) 
>> can fly it.
>> 
>> That doesn’t sound like a particularly sustainable outcome for gliding, does 
>> it?
>> 
>> It’s certainly not the kind of thing that half a dozen qualified glider 
>> pilots who aren’t club members are going to form a syndicate around.
>> 
>> - mark
>> 
>> 
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