Or the sport in general.

Mike

> On 30 Jan 2017, at 2:44 PM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
> 
> I’m alright Jack, too.
> 
> Not exactly to the collective benefit of glider pilots though, is it?
> 
>  - mark
> 
> 
>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 5:42 PM, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> lucky i have a PPL... i guess i have options 
>> 
>>>> On 30 Jan 2017, at 3:26 PM, Mark Newton <new...@atdot.dotat.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 30, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Richard Frawley <rjfraw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> why register it [an electric self-launcher] as a glider?
>>> 
>>> Because the GFA system only authorizes pilots trained by GFA to fly 
>>> GFA-registered gliders that have been maintained under the GFA 
>>> airworthiness system.
>>> 
>>> So if you register it as a light aircraft, you can’t fly it until you make 
>>> it airworthy to GA standards, and acquire (at least) an RPL.
>>> 
>>> The GFA syllabus is not aligned with the RPL syllabus, so that means you 
>>> have to pay a CASA school to be trained all over again to legally fly the 
>>> aircraft that you would be able to fly if you were under the control of a 
>>> GFA CFI as a member of a GFA club (typical cost for a GA RPL syllabus is 
>>> about $7000, plus whatever you need to pay to get a cross-country 
>>> endorsement). 
>>> 
>>> If you already have a pilot license and you’ve never encountered GFA 
>>> before, you might be able to buy an electric self-launcher, register it GA, 
>>> and fly it under an RPL. 
>>> 
>>> But only if it’s brand new. If it has previously been maintained under the 
>>> GFA form-2 system, it won’t be airworthy to GA standards, and probably 
>>> couldn’t be flown at all by anyone regardless of their license status. 
>>> You’d have to pay a LAME a considerable amount of money to bring it under 
>>> the GA maintenance umbrella and issue it with a GA maintenance release.
>>> 
>>> And once you’ve done that, GFA pilots without CASA licenses wouldn’t be 
>>> able to fly it anymore, so you’d have extreme difficulty ever selling it 
>>> again afterwards.
>>> 
>>>> Is there a choice?
>>> 
>>> In practical terms: No.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> its has over 200Klm battery range and it takes off from the ground, sounds 
>>>> like a light aircraft to me
>>> 
>>> Then only a tiny minority of GFA members (who have RPL or PPL CASA 
>>> licenses) can fly it.
>>> 
>>> That doesn’t sound like a particularly sustainable outcome for gliding, 
>>> does it?
>>> 
>>> It’s certainly not the kind of thing that half a dozen qualified glider 
>>> pilots who aren’t club members are going to form a syndicate around.
>>> 
>>> - mark
>>> 
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