Hi Tim & All, Thank you all for your considered responses.
I agree with Tim that the Horsham SGP event was a success, and also his comment that “the result was positive for the organising club, and for the town of Horsham. I cannot comment on “for the GFA”, but I will take Tim’s word on this. There is no doubt that the racing was fine, and the race to the line (and honours), on the last day was a nail biter. Depending on weather (as always), Horsham can be a great site to fly out of. I too hope we can get a full field for the 2018 SGP next January ...... and even if you do not have an 18 m super ship, you can still fly in the Horsham Week Competition – believed to be the longest continuous running competition in the world. You do not have to remember dates here. It ALWAYS starts on the first Saturday in February, regardless of the actual date. There is no practice day: The first Saturday is contest day 1. In my experience this has never caused any problems. [This is something that organisers of other contests might think about trying.] Over the years 500k plus tasks have been flown regularly, and on occasion even by the Club Class. Regards, Gary From: Tim Shirley - IT Admin [mailto:it_ad...@glidingaustralia.org] Sent: Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:30 PM To: JOHN DAVID STYLES Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.; Ross McLean; Gary Stevenson; Ray Stewart; Gliding Australia Forum; Beryl Hartley Subject: Re: [gfaforum] Congratulations to the Two Seat Championship Winners Hi all, As the Contest Director of the SGP Qualifying Round in Horsham, I need to correct several claims made in the previous email. The SGP at Horsham was widely promoted to eligible pilots both in Australia and overseas, both by the organisation itself and by the SGP organisation in Europe. The SGP is not an event intended for wide-ranging participation - it is an international sailplane Grand Prix event intended to attract elite pilots from Australia and overseas. It is not a handicapped event, and so it makes sense only for pilots with top of the line 18 metre gliders to attend. Only 20 competitors are permitted. There were 14 entries out of a possible 20. 6 of those pilots went on to compete in the WGC - two from the US, two from NZ and two from Australia. The remainder were Australian pilots with top of the line gliders and good experience levels. It was a top class field of elite pilots. The competition was hard fought and close, and on the podium we had a pilot from each of the countries who attended. It is notable that the SGP Champion Geoff Brown was not a WGC competitor, but still beat every one of the WGC competitors who had every right to expect that they would walk off with it. The promotion both before and during the event was handled very well by the local organisation and by Sean Young the GFA webmaster. More can always be done, of course. Everyone knew that the SGP was on. The top overseas pilots had the WGC to consider, and many could not attend for logistical reasons. Their gliders were in containers, the pilots could not afford the extra time. We had several apologies from overseas pilots for these reasons, and also from two of the Australian WGC team who could not get the necessary time from work. I was expecting more Australians to attend, but I'm sure they had their own good reasons - it is a crowded calendar of events. The event was a success. It attracted a quality field. Poor promotion was not the reason for the small numbers attending. The result was positive for the organising club, for the town of Horsham, and for the GFA. The organisation and particularly the on-field publicity was praised widely both here and overseas. I look forward to seeing a full field of 20 18 metre gliders at Horsham next January. Cheers On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 10:52 AM, JOHN DAVID STYLES <jd.sty...@bigpond.com> wrote: The Horsham SGP was not promoted widely with only a mention on the WGC website and a post in the WGC Facebook page. It was never directly promoted to the pilots coming to WGC even though the WGC organisation had the ability to do that. Making a couple of un-targeted references was never going to achieve anything. They should have targeted the individual pilots and invited them. They could have sent all the completing WGC pilots a personal invite via email, they had access to that info, they could have put a post on each countries team Facebook page, they could have sent a message via Facebook to each of the competing pilots who had their own Facebook page. So they had an opportunity to sell the SGP to the overseas WGC pilots but perhaps lacked some GFA / WGC support. This is no criticism of the people who organised the SGP, they did a great job and produced the best SGP to date that achieved good local sponsorship and involved the town and excellent media penetration. Maybe they will do better this year, there are opportunities with visiting O/S pilots if they get it right. ------ Original Message ------ From: "'Ray Stewart' via Gliding Australia Forum" <gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org> To: "Gary Stevenson" <gstev...@bigpond.com>; "'Ross McLean'" <ross...@bigpond.net.au>; "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>; gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org Cc: "'Beryl Hartley'" <arnie.hart...@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, 20 Feb, 2017 At 10:22 PM Subject: Re: [gfaforum] Congratulations to the Two Seat Championship Winners As first time attendees, Ros and I can vouch for just how special this comp is. I certainly hope this has worked out well for the Narromine club, who put in a huge effort to make the comp a success. It would be terrific to see more gliders taking part in 20m class, open class and perhaps even club? Most importantly, we would like to spread the positive feedback so that others who are considering having a go, turn up next year. Thanks again to the Narromine crew! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0> On Monday, February 20, 2017, 8:47 pm, Gary Stevenson <gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote: Hello Ross, Yes! I totally agree with all your comments. Well done all. Having said that ...... Re the Narromine Gliding Club, I have to ask, was this great effort financially rewarding, given the small entry list? I also have to ask the same question of the Wimmera Flying Club, who ran a great Grand Prix event, at Horsham recently. Again the entry list was small. [The Club President recently announced that the Club has put their hand up to host the next round for this region.] At Horsham I was particularly surprised at the lack of international entries, given that international pilots were in abundance in Australia at this time. Perhaps Terry Cubley (wearer of many hats), might like to make an informed comment here? Regards Gary From: Ross McLean [mailto:ross...@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Monday, 20 February 2017 1:42 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'; gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org Cc: 'Beryl Hartley' Subject: [gfaforum] Congratulations to the Two Seat Championship Winners Congratulations to everyone who participated in the Two Seat nationals at Narromine. Narromine showed her best and toughest sides during the competition and the winners are very worthy pilots indeed. It was a very closely fought competition with only 107 points between first and third places in 20m and only 103 points separating the top 3 in Open Class. At the end of the day David & Lesley Jansen emerged as winners in both classes. Well done guys, Congratulations! A special vote of thanks and congratulations to the Narromine Gliding Club for running such an outstanding competition again this year. In the Open Two Seat Class, the top 3 winners were: # CN Contestant Club Glider Total 1 KDX David & Lesley Jansen Kingaroy Duo Discus 6,038 2 XXF Ron Sanders & Peter Sheard Grampians Soaring Club Nimbus 3 DM 5,983 3 ZAB David Holmes & Allan Barnes Lake Keepit Soaring Club Duo Discus T 5,935 A special mention for Ray and Roslyn Stewart who were only 32 points behind 3rd place in the Narromine Duo Discus WVS! In the 20m Two Seat Class the top 3 winners were: # CN Contestant Club Glider Total 1 KDX David & Lesley Jansen Kingaroy Duo Discus 6,169 2 ZAB David Holmes & Allan Barnes Lake Keepit Soaring Club Duo Discus T 6,056 3 WVS Ray & Roslyn Stewart Kingaroy Duo Discus 6,022 But look how close the scores are! It was anybody's competition to win right to the last moment. ROSS _________________________________________________________________________________________ Ross McLean Mobile: + 61 488 270 105 Telephone: + 61 7 4325 4771 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/13977 - Release Date: 02/19/17 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gliding Australia Forum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org. 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