I wonder if there are any S 92 (Constitution) issues with States not
recognising each others (special) exemptions re vehicles travelling
interstate. Short of that, it would seem that some national representative
bodies need to do some work on it, e.g. Farmers Federation, Rowing, GFA and
others.
They are the only ones to have the clout to be listened to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Emilis Prelgauskas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, 22 November 2003 9:32 AM
Subject: [Aus-soaring] registering trailers
> My 2c worth
>
> The Bulletin No.1 issued by VicRoads I believe had the involvement of GFA
> (John Ashford?). The road authorities were concerned that long trailers
had
> poor corner swing characteristics (unacceptable tracking into corner with
> wheel axle group and outside radius swing of the trailer rear end). The
> Bulletin reflected the road authorities on paper assessments and how far
> they were prepared to accept glider trailers being safe in these regards.
> Much as the rowing skulls and trailer sailor boats limits.
> 5m rear overhang from centre line of axle group, an extension from the
> normal 3.7m limit for trailers. Also limits on car+trailer length totals,
> and so on.
>
> Similar rules were subsequently promulgated in other states, as this is
> dealt with at state level.
>
> Some gliders of course don't fit.
> Older single wing types (ES-52, ES-57, ES-59)
> Open Class with long fuselages (ASH25) or long wing panels (IS32), or both
> (Stemme)
> These all exceed the limits derigged, usually in rear overhang. (I have an
> interest in 4 on the list above, hence the personal interest)
>
> (Internationally this is nothing new. While in the EU each country had its
> traditional individual trailer laws, German pilots crossing Italy each
year
> were paying road fines for taking their gliders to comps for not having
> compliant trailers to Italian law)
>
> In S.A. for these, individual permits were initially available.
> Then these were slated for withdrawal ('surely you've reworked your
trailer
> to comply by now' says the desk driving beauracrat)
>
> So we talk about indivisible loads, or would the beauracrat like to
explain
> himself at a coronial aviation inquiry because he made me put a chainsaw
> through my wing (ie the precedence of federal law over state law), and so
on.
>
> Currently individual permits are being 3 year renewed (so we can have the
> same debate with new desk drivers each 3 year rotation). As previously
noted
> on this list, the permit has no validity outside the state of issue.
> [which brings us to the plight of farmers having acreage across state
> borders and moving machinery where top, side, length overhang laws vary]
>
> The answer is of course obvious. Buy only a compliant glider/trailer. What
> do you mean you buy the glider on its performance characteristics. That's
> irrelevant; we're doing this in your best interests you know.
>
>
> Similarly, we're unlikely to see a VW Beetle towing an ES-52 on its
trailer
> at a vintage car rally (early AGs show such combinations as the norm),
> because of modern max tow limit laws for cars and hitches.
>
> >From my work world experience, the primary growth industry in the last
> decades seems to have been endless desk drivers writing endless new rules
> which create so many anomolous situations which then have to be dealt with
> by having more desk drivers writing more rules. Never ending employment
> opportunities; no skill required.
>
> I'm told by my earthmoving mates (during smoko while we were taking one
hump
> out of my strip) that the police are less involved than Dept of Roads
> inspectors for whom all this is core business, including inspecting the
load
> tiedowns under another set of rules (no, being an enclosed box does not
> relieve you of the chain and ratchet tension on all corners and across the
> body securing rules - another time when complying is more important than
> what damage you might do to the aviation approved device in the process of
> complying).
> --
> Emilis Prelgauskas
> B.ARCH ARAIA
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