Miles

Do you have a copy of the article to hand (DOC file or scanned TIF is OK), or 
can you tell us which edition of AG (or whatever the magazine was called at 
the time) it was published in ?

Thanks

Jason

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 19:53:04 +0800, mgbsia wrote
> Hi all,
> I have been watching the discussion re trailer rego but due to work 
> have been unable to add my two bobs worth. Some time back I wrote an 
> article for AG re the steps to go through to register new (Cobra)
>  trailers in QLD without any mods and keeping the factory serial 
> number as the vin number. In Qld we have worked out a (successful) 
> system where by we can register the trailers with an exemption 
> against the over hang requirements. I personally have registered two 
> new trailers and others have used the established system to register 
> no fewer than 3 others over the last 18mths. It would be nice if the 
> all the states followed the same logic and decided that glider 
> trailers specifically designed for gliders are only safe if left as 
> the manufacturer designed them. In the initial process John Buchanan 
> and I wrote (on different occassions) to Qld Transport detailing 
> that changing the axle position would make the trailer unstable and 
> hence a danger on the roads. The powers at be understood the 
> situation and allowed the trailers to be registered as constructed 
> by in my cases Spindleberger. As has been mentioned in order to have 
> the trailer imported an permit to import is required. This permit is 
> then used to  also apply for registration. Without the import permit 
> a delay  in the rego process is possible and you may end up with the 
> trailer  held in customs bond at the wharf. Anyway I will not go 
> into further details as it is all written in my AG article. I fully 
> agree it would be great if we could have the process accepted Aus 
> wide. If i can be of further assistance then please do not hesitate 
> to drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Luke Dod is the latest of 
> our Qld success stories, he has just imported a new cobra, used my 
> steps and now has a registered trailer with no modifications. 
> Regards Miles G-B
> 
> > From: " Christopher  Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue 25/11/2003 6:36 PM GMT+08:00
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> >    "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
> >     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] registering trailers
> > 
> > Goodonya Allan, you have certainly grasped an opportunity with that
> > conference in Canberra next week.
> > South Australia definitly followed Victoria as I was involved with that
> > acceptance and was told by the people I was dealing with that all the 
other
> > States and Territories were going to follow, but from what you say this 
may
> > not be so.
> > 
> > So it seems there are now two issues:
> > 
> > 1. A uniform standard specification for glider trailers across Oz.
> > 
> > 2. Recognition of "one off" exemptions (i.e Kookaburra trailers etc.) 
given
> > in one State being recognised
> >     nationally.
> > 
> > Christopher McDonnell
> > GQG & GRH
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allan Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2003 4:15 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] registering trailers
> > 
> > 
> > > As we (Canberra Gliding Club) have a glider and trailer on the water at
> > the
> > > moment I've been following the trailer registration issue up with our
> > local
> > > authority (ACT motor registry).
> > >
> > > As has been mentioned by others, GFA and VicRoads did some work about 4
> > > years ago that led to the issue of a VicRoads bulleting allowing up to 
5m
> > > overhang on trailers (the bulletin is available for download form the
> > > VicRoads website (www.vicroads.vic.gov.au), easy enough to find from the
> > > links. (National motor vehicle regulations specify 3.7m as maximum
> > > overhang.)
> > >
> > > It appears at the time there was some sort of understanding that other
> > > jurisdictions would also take the same path but it appears this was 
never
> > > set on paper and signed off. As a result, other jurisdictions have gone 
on
> > > somewhat separate directions.
> > >
> > > In talking with ACT rego people, they were quite unmoved by the fact 
that
> > > VicRoads had an eminently sensible way around the problem and, gee, it's
> > all
> > > a bit hard. They were also not swayed by the fact that we already have
> > about
> > > a dozen "non complying" trailers down at the field, many of them on ACT
> > > registration.
> > >
> > > But as luck would have it, there is a gathering here in Canberra next 
week
> > > of registration people from all the states and territories. The guy from
> > ACT
> > > rego undertook that, if I gave him some background information, he would
> > put
> > > together a discussion paper on the issue and table it.
> > >
> > > I have subsequently spoken to GFA in Melbourne, my contacts in the
> > > Commonwealth Dept of Transport and Regional Services here in Canberra
> > (where
> > > I worked for some 16 years in the roads side of life), also at VicRoads,
> > and
> > > found out the background to the VicRoads position. The original 
paperwork
> > on
> > > the analysis of the trailers is still alive and well in VicRoads.
> > >
> > > Perhaps next week might just take us a bit closer to a uniform and
> > sensible
> > > resolution.
> > >
> > > If we can't make any progress with ACT, we just might have to go over 
the
> > > border to Queanbeyan and register our trailer in NSW. That is, after 
all,
> > > where our field is.
> > >
> > > As an aside, if you are importing a trailer, make sure you get an
> > "approval
> > > to import a vehicle" permit from the Commonwealth before it arrives here
> > in
> > > Australia to save yourself a lot of heartache.
> > >
> > > Allan Armistead
> > > ph (02) 6249 6470, fax (02) 6249 6555, mobile 0413 013 911
> > > PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia
> > >
> > > "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
> > > turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
> > > Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
> > >
> > 
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