Of course he flies compentently.  He was trained by George Lee in a decent
two-seater, Nimbus 4DM.  Fancy regressing to a Kookaburra.  Oh, the shame of
it!
Roger Druce

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Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 4:26 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim

Your right Chris. (of course)
Caleb belongs to that young whipersnapper generation of glider pilots we
OFITTH's just despise.
Young, virile(you should see his girlfriend) and a much smarter and serious
view of the world.
I'm trying my darndest to convert him into one of us with partnerships in
the EP-2 and letting him fly my other gliders but I think only time will
ensure he converts to OFITTH status.
Mind you he can fly tho.
Cheers
Ian P.
Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team.
----- Original Message -----
From: " Christopher Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." 
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Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim


> The Longwing I used to fly passengers in had the trim between the 
> seats and you had to physically move the passengers right thigh to get 
> to it.
> Mmmmmmm nice in some cases. (insert Homer Simpson voice) :-) Ian, this 
> member of the Kookaburra Precision Flying Team is too serious.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 1:49 PM
> Subject: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim
>
>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> The trim is on the left just below the cockpit frame, a rod and ball 
>> type
> arrangement, the rod continues aft for the person with the bad back 
> (or soon to have one) in the rear seat. (That's a Mk. 4 Kooka, the hot 
> one)
>>
>> That's the trouble with today's sailplanes: Too much commonality!
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Caleb
>>
>> KPST
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: " Christopher  Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
> <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:06:53 +0930
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider
>>
>> Definitly a "classy" aircraft Caleb and at your age none better to 
>> fly a chick in :-) BTW where is the trim lever in yours?  :-)
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris McDonnell
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider
>>
>>
>> > But there is a World Class Two-Seater!
>> >
>> > It's called a shortwing Kookaburra...
>> >
>> > Caleb
>> >
>> > Kooka 45
>> >
>> > KPST
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Robert Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
>> > Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +1000
>> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 11:23 +1000, Peter Creswick wrote:
>> > > In essence, I wonder if the whole idea of a world class single 
>> > > seater is viable to begin with.  Would it not be more sensible to 
>> > > have a world class two seater ?  I admit that at first thought it 
>> > > might be considered a heretical idea, but let's give it a run as 
>> > > a hypothetical.  Comments ?
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> > I think the concept of a world class glider was probably good, the 
>> > execution, as is visible in the form of the PW 5, was terrible. 
>> > There have been some useful suggestions as to how that bad decision 
>> > might have been avoided.
>> >
>> > If a reasonable performance single seat glider, backed by a 
>> > worldwide comp system, was available at a good price, then I think 
>> > the idea would work. The design should also include a one man rig 
>> > trailer and (if
>> > possible) provision for self launching (as I too think that this 
>> > will dominate the future of gliding).
>> >
>> > Reasonable performance is of course in the eye of the beholder. My 
>> > thoughts are 40:1 or better max L/D, but with a modern aerofoil 
>> > giving a good performance at 80 kts.
>> >
>> > A world class two seater is an interesting idea. We certainly need 
>> > a good, low cost two seater to replace our ageing ab initio fleet. 
>> > If there were a worldwide 2 seater comp to back it - as this is 
>> > what would drive its adoption worldwide and allow economies of 
>> > scale to be reached
>> > - then the idea could work well for us.
>> >
>> > With today's aerofoils and materials, I think an acceptable XC 
>> > performance could be achieved whilst still keeping handling and 
>> > strength in the sweet spot for ab initio training.
>> >
>> > Again, I would suggest the rules should specifically require a 2 
>> > man rig trailer and stipulate provision for a self launching 
>> > option.
>> >
>> > -- 
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