You realise this means the end of the horse drawn zepplin !!
JR
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Gilbert 
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps


  What you are talking about is states being allowed to apply local rules to a 
national contest. Incidently, this (generally speaking) is not a state based 
thing. Any location for a competition can specify local rules that can, in some 
cases, override certain sections of the nationals rules. 

  For someone with no interest in competitons you certainly seem to be showing 
a lot of interest in competitions.

  Nick.

   
  On 1/30/07, David Lawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
    Huh? Re read my post Nick- I never said that State rules apply to Nationals,
    or nationals rules apply to state comps, I said it seemed strange to allow 
    states to change the nationals rules or introduce new ones to suit
    themselves when THEY run a particular nationals i.e. I believe (correct me
    if I am wrong)mandatory FLARM at recent Queensland held nationals was a 
    STATE decision not national body decision.(Note: Example only FLARMnatics
    need not respond) National comps should be based on Nationally decided rules
    not any one states whim.

    Of course, each State can have their own comp rules for state comps-but 
    logic would seem to dictate using the same rules as national championships
    to help people prepare properly for the next level up of comp.

    I will try to find the reference to such matters regarding competing at 
    regional competitions to qualify for a comp license (could be a US thing).
    BTW I have no interest in comps myself, just thought it strange that the
    national rules could be changed at the whim of a state that is holding 
them, 
    I know of no other sport that allows this, although I am sure Victoria
    wouldn't mind changing some footy rules so they could (maybe) win a
    premiership again eventually(-:

    Regards

    Dave L


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    Dave,

    The nationals rules don't apply to state competitions - they apply to
    national competitions. Makes perfect sense to me. The state based
    competitions arent modifying the nationals rules - they have their own.
    Good thing too, they are entry level events.

    The state based cricket competition doesn't play 5 day test matches.

    Regards,
    ____________ 
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    Lotus Notes Administrator - Hardy Wines





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    Hi All,

    Whereas I thought I read somewhere that one qualified for a FAI comp
    license
    in part by entering regional competitions, a bit of a catch 22 this eh? 

    No license, no compete, no compete no license! Why am I not surprised!

    One thing I have never been able to fathom is how States are allowed to
    modify the nationals rules at will, it seems to me they should be decided 
    Nationally, and states should not be able to tack on their own extras,
    such
    as mandatory FLARM without National body approval of a rule change.

    It seems crazy to allow this to me, and I can think of no other sport that 
    does this sort of thing. National comp rules should be a matter for
    national
    consideration, not the whim of a state body.

    Regards

    Dave L.



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    Peter B
    Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 8:43 AM 
    To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
    Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps

    Or if you call the event a Regatta then you don't need Competitors
    licenses nor do you require competition insurance. 

    -----Original Message-----
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    [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert
    Hart
    Sent: Tuesday, 30 January 2007 7:54 AM
    To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
    Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps 

    David Nugent wrote:
    > Rolf,
    >
    > Competition licenses have not been required at past Horsham Weeks
    > (including when they are a State comp), my understanding is that they
    > are only reqd at National level. 
    It is my understanding that in order to be able to use the GFA
    competition insurance cover, all competing pilots must have an FAI
    competitor's licence. This is why all competitions in Qld (including the
    Easter competition) require competitor's licences. 

    --
    Robert Hart                                  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    +61 (0)438 385 533
    http://www.hart.wattle.id.au 


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