MessageAfraid the question of whether it had a "L" or "green P" or "red P"
plate hanging on the front didn't really cross my mind... The only relevant
question was whether I could stop quickly enough on the bitumen or needed to
head bush. Thank goodness for massive braking power and the fact that no one
was tailgating me!


Allan Armistead
ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519


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Kerri FERGUSON
  Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 16:51
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
  Subject: [Aus-soaring] ..........how did we get from Spin training to
agerelated topics


  Guess you did not notice if it had a P Plate on it either.



  SDF




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Armistead
  Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 4:12 PM
  To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
  Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not spin...



  Age relates to low experience.



  Gender has no relevance but that's how the story was relayed to me.



  I was nearly run off the road on Saturday by a person in a 4WD (overtaking
across a double line). It all happened so quick and I was too busy avoiding
the head on to notice the sex of the driver, or I would probably be saying
"a guy" or "a girl" in relaying the story. I expect if I post the details on
a newsgroup some sensitive 4WD driver will ask me "what is the relevance of
the type of vehicle" and it's not relevant (any more than the sex of the
driver is relevant) but it's a fact of the story.



  Allan Armistead
  ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
  PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

  "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
  Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519

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    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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    Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 15:55
    To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
    Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...

    Overall point of the comment taken, but I missed the relevance of the
age and gender of the power instructor.




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    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan
Armistead
    Sent: Monday, 12 February 2007 2:36 PM
    To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
    Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...



    While I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to have
been taught spins and recovery as part of my gliding training. If only to
underline the fact that I don't want to put myself in a situation where I
accidentally happen upon one.



    I was really surprised when I subsequently did my power training to find
that we did nothing beyond basic stalls and recovery.



    Stuart Ferguson said (talking about power aircraft and spins);



    "I would suggest that many of today's instructors would have been taught
by people who had not been fully taught how to spin and in turn pass this
onto their students some of whom will become the next generation of
instructors"



    Reminds me of the story of one of our very experienced (gliding)
instructors doing his power licence and the young lady instructor "teaching"
him forced landings. They had a bit of a difference of opinion on how best
to select a suitable field and set up the circuit. I believe the
conversation went something along these lines...



    He "How many real forced landings have you actually done?"



    She "None"



    He "Well I've done dozens and this is how I do them..."



    Allan Armistead
    ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
    PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

    "When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
    Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519


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