David – it is all marketing B/S – the attached photo was of the
side panel of a car I once owned,
it clearly says 4WD but by your definition it would be an AWD – was
Mr Toyota wrong?
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Apart from your not 4 wheels version, an AWD cannot select 2WD
a 4WD can
On 12/02/2007, at 9:51 PM, Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote:
Allan – I am confused – when is an AWD not a 4WD - unless it has
more than 4 wheels of course?
SDF
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Well it certainly wasn't a Toyota Prius so it wasn't a hybrid
And I was driving an AWD and it wasn't me
So by a process of elimination from the choices you've given me it
was a 4WD
Allan Armistead
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eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always
will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
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Was it 4WD, AWD or Hybrid :-)
It is critical. :-)
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
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Age relates to low experience.
Gender has no relevance but that's how the story was relayed to me.
I was nearly run off the road on Saturday by a person in a 4WD
(overtaking across a double line). It all happened so quick and I
was too busy avoiding the head on to notice the sex of the driver,
or I would probably be saying "a guy" or "a girl" in relaying the
story. I expect if I post the details on a newsgroup some
sensitive 4WD driver will ask me "what is the relevance of the
type of vehicle" and it's not relevant (any more than the sex of
the driver is relevant) but it's a fact of the story.
Allan Armistead
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PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia
"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always
will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...
Overall point of the comment taken, but I missed the relevance of
the age and gender of the power instructor.
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Pirat and Polish glider that would not
spin...
While I stop short of saying "spins are fun" I'm very pleased to
have been taught spins and recovery as part of my gliding
training. If only to underline the fact that I don't want to put
myself in a situation where I accidentally happen upon one.
I was really surprised when I subsequently did my power training
to find that we did nothing beyond basic stalls and recovery.
Stuart Ferguson said (talking about power aircraft and spins);
"I would suggest that many of today’s instructors would have been
taught by people who had not been fully taught how to spin and in
turn pass this onto their students some of whom will become the
next generation of instructors"
Reminds me of the story of one of our very experienced (gliding)
instructors doing his power licence and the young lady instructor
"teaching" him forced landings. They had a bit of a difference of
opinion on how best to select a suitable field and set up the
circuit. I believe the conversation went something along these
lines...
He "How many real forced landings have you actually done?"
She "None"
He "Well I've done dozens and this is how I do them..."
Allan Armistead
ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia
"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your
eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always
will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519
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