I once saw a pilot land wheels up. After the landing he was very vocal
telling everyone how he had been distracted in the circuit by a buzzer 
alarm every time he opened the airbrakes. 

He was highly embarrassed when reminded that that the buzzer was to warn him
that the wheel was up, he was current on that particular aircraft at the
time too.  Later it also cost him dearly at the bar. 

SDF

      

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indeed - 3 of the 4 wheels up landing i've seen have been following 
straight ins.

Nick.





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Exactly why a rigid downwind check is not a good idea, but training 
to have the glider in the correct configuration for phase of flight 
is. In an ideal world, the 2 coincide. When they don't, expect trouble.

I wonder how many wheel up incidents are preceded by no downwind leg ?


On 26/04/2007, at 8:52 AM, Peter Stephenson wrote:

> When I have decided to land, I put down the under carriage.  Then 
> in the circuit, I look at the placard and touch (push or pull) the 
> undercarriage lever and make sure it is locked down, and repeat the 
> locking  check a couple of times in the circuit in a OCD manner.
> I have had one landing with U/C up and one near one. Both were in a 
> Blanik (for those that do not know, is not a disaster, just 
> embarrassing).  Both times I was early in my career as an 
> instructor in the back and I have not done it YET when solo or with 
> a passenger.
>
> The first time, I heard my student do the checks but I did not 
> check him as he was making me feel anxious with his circuit and my 
> head was outside the cockpit.
> I have also had one near landing with U/C up when the student (also 
> a licensed power pilot) picked up our mistake on final whilst doing 
> his power PUFF check.  We did not do a downwind (hence no checks) 
> as we joined the circuit on base leg as were caught out low after 
> some tasks.
>
> PeterS
>
> JR wrote:
>> When you do your checks, do you say them out-loud, or in your 
>> head, and do
>> you physicaly touch or do you just look for where things are, I 
>> remember an
>> accident/incident in a powered aircraft, that a rear seat 
>> passenger had a
>> video camera and was filming at the time of the emergency, and 
>> when the
>> authorities looked at the footage, the pilot never moved anything, 
>> but
>> actually touched everything in the emergency check list as he was 
>> shown
>> during training, never actually having an emergency, just going 
>> through the
>> motions, ( probably in more ways than one ). Interesting though ,
>> JR
>>
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