Well said Tim With the email list it is much easier to see any replies, however when it comes to Soaring Australia you are trusting what you read. A few times I have stopped half way through an article to see who wrote it, just because it doesnt quite read right. It must be very frustrating for those who have paid for a back cover spread to read what is basically free advertising within the pages (especially when it is written as a review). At the very least, and association with a particular manufacturer should be mentioned at the end of the article.
Cheers Tom W ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Shirley To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps In the interests of free speech, I do not believe that this group should have a moderator. However, I think it would be appropriate for those with a vested interest in a particular product to make that interest clear when posting on this list (and when writing articles in Soaring Australia) especially when they are praising or promoting the products they sell. I have no objection to this list being used to advertise (that is free speech, as well), but I would like to know that it IS an advertisement. In the case of Soaring Australia, I also believe that blatantly promotional articles should be paid for just like any other advertisement. While many of us know who is who in the zoo, there will be those who don't. Perhaps, if these people choose not to declare their interest, another member of the list could "out" them :) I don't think anyone doubts that the ASG29 is a "good thing". It was only suggested that those same pilots would probably have done equally well in other equipment. Cheers Tim ("written by Tim Shirley for the LS1D owners association of australia. Vote 1 LS1D") Geoff Kidd wrote: Luke's note must be either HILARIOUSLY funny amongst those that are in the know ............. or alternatively it could, just possibly, look like it is in poor taste to those that aren't rolling around in mirth. This group might need a moderator to keep competing sailplane salesmen under control. Bernard's post congratulated the 3 pilots involved, so what is Luke's line 1 all about? Why is it so hard to accept that the ASG29 just might be a pretty good thing? ----- Original Message ----- From: Luke Dodd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps I am sure the pilots had nothing to do with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The three pilots concerned could fly a brick to first place!!!! Luke Dodd ----- Original Message ----- From: nandrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the nationals to be fair to the others Nigel Nigel Andrews Managing Director RF Developments Pty Ltd "A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in aviation electronics" Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.rf-developments.com Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 **************DISCLAIMER************ The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer system network. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi Simon I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on you!!! In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all three pilots on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various Nationals in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely regarded as the top ship in 18m class these days. Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high speed cruise makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today’s open class ships can stay with it and it doesn’t seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar bumps or not. But don’t take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his second order for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January? Your confirmation would be appreciated! Kind regards Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J Simon -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Hi all I didn’t want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope I can be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, second and third. Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. Bernard Eckey FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. 10 Antigua Grove West Lakes 5021 Adelaide / South Australia Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 mobile 0412 981204 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM To: aus soaring Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 180km/hr over the task! Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 2CX is just a WICKED glider!! Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record flights? WPP > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100 > Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps > > The had practice day on Sunday. > > There are plenty of flies to eat. > > The new Duo X has won a day or two. > > Macca has won. > > Forgot who the other winners were. > > They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task. > > Mal > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sell your car for just $30 at CarPoint.com.au. 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