Macca, Current Nationals Rules (which in this area are consistent with World Comps) specify an outlanding at the point of the offence for the first airspace violation, zero for the day on the second offence, and disqualification from the event for the third. Both the Queensland and NSW rules appear to be based on earlier incarnations of Nationals Rules if what you say is correct.
An outlanding before the start is effectively zero for the day of course. Cheers Tim Ian McPhee wrote: > Do not be too hard on aircraft handicaps just because a pilot does > well in a particular aircraft. We buggered up because we turned at > 13km on the only day they had a 10km circle and that the first turn > point!!!. We went on to do 400km in 4 hours for just 70 points. Our > fault for sure. > > On another strange one Queensland comps have zero points if you go > into airspace before the start whereas in NSW you only loose 100 > points!!!! > > Also we observed one person doing serious cloud flying (like 2 mins in > cloud in 7kts up and then coming out the side) - The flarm showed > they were there. This happened on several days and on one day this > person would have gained and extra 15km over others. I have zero idea > who it was but i am afraid it should be looked into as we have the > technology. Like flying overweight is is just another form of > cheating. I do know Brad Edwards has never flown a comps since > another aircraft was allowed to fly over weight and was given no > penality. He called it another form of cheating. > > Ian McPhee > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* nandrews <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:20 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps > > Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they > are that good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should > happen before the nationals to be fair to the others > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > Nigel Andrews > > > > Managing Director > > > > RF Developments Pty Ltd > > > > "A Queensland Company devoted to Research and Development in > aviation electronics" > > > > Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Web www.rf-developments.com <http://www.rf-developments.com/> > > > > Ph: (61) 7 54635670 Fax: (61) 7 54635695 > > > > **************DISCLAIMER************ > > > > The information contained in the above e-mail message or messages > (which includes any attachments) is confidential and may be > legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the person > or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the addressee > any form of disclosure, copying, modification, distribution or any > action taken or omitted in reliance on the information is > unauthorised. If you received this communication in error, please > notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer > system network. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. > *Sent:* Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps > > > > Hi Simon > > > > I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try > - good on you!!! > > > > In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and > having all three pilots > > on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at > various Nationals > > in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is > widely regarded > > as the top ship in 18m class these days. > > > > Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance > in high speed cruise > > makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today’s > open class ships can stay > > with it and it doesn’t seem to matter whether the aircraft has > developed spar bumps or > > not. > > But don’t take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just > placed his second order > > for an ASG 29(E) – number sixteen (16) in my sales territory. > > > > On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in > January? > > Your confirmation would be appreciated! > > > > Kind regards > > > > Bernard Eckey > > FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD. > > 10 Antigua Grove > > West Lakes 5021 > > Adelaide / South Australia > > Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871 > > mobile 0412 981204 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *simon holding > *Sent:* Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps > > > > So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J > > Simon > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of > *Future Aviation Pty. Ltd. > *Sent:* Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM > *To:* 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps > > > > Hi all > > > > I didn’t want to contradict Adam before the final results were out > but I hope I can > > be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but > finished first, second > > and third. > > Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. > > > > Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29. > > > > Bernard Eckey > > FUTURE AVIATION PTY. 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