Do not be too hard on aircraft handicaps just because a pilot does well in a 
particular aircraft. We buggered up because we turned at 13km on the only day 
they had a 10km circle and that the first turn point!!!. We went on to do 400km 
in 4 hours for just 70 points. Our fault for sure. 

On another strange one Queensland comps have zero points if you go into 
airspace before the start whereas in NSW you only loose 100 points!!!!

Also we observed one person doing serious cloud flying (like 2 mins in cloud in 
7kts up and then coming out the side)  - The flarm showed they were there.  
This happened on several days and on one day this person would have gained and 
extra 15km over others.  I have zero idea who it was but i am afraid it should 
be looked into as we have the technology.  Like flying overweight is is just 
another form of cheating.  I do know Brad Edwards has never flown a comps since 
another aircraft was allowed to fly over weight and was given no penality. He 
called it another form of cheating. 

Ian McPhee     
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: nandrews 
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps


  Looks like the handicap needs to be adjusted then Bernard if they are that 
good, what would you suggest 1 or 2 percent? This should happen before the 
nationals to be fair to the others

   

  Nigel

   

   

   

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future 
Aviation Pty. Ltd.
  Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 10:29 AM
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps

   

  Hi Simon

   

  I can see that you are trying to spice up this newsgroup. Good try - good on 
you!!!

   

  In all seriousness, Simon, having three ASG 29 in the comp and having all 
three pilots 

  on the podium is by no means an isolated case. It has happened at various 
Nationals 

  in Europe and America and is one of many reasons why the ASG 29 is widely 
regarded 

  as the top ship in 18m class these days. 

   

  Especially in countries like Australia its spectacular performance in high 
speed cruise 

  makes the glider attractive. Not even the very best of today's open class 
ships can stay 

  with it and it doesn't seem to matter whether the aircraft has developed spar 
bumps or 

  not.  

  But don't take my word for it and talk to Butch. He has just placed his 
second order

  for an ASG 29(E) - number sixteen (16) in my sales territory.

   

  On another matter, are you coming to the Waikerie coaching week in January?

  Your confirmation would be appreciated!

   

  Kind regards 

   

  Bernard Eckey

  FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD.

  10 Antigua Grove

  West Lakes 5021

  Adelaide / South Australia

  Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871

  mobile 0412 981204

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of simon holding
  Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 8:14 PM
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps

   

  So Bernard, what would you put it down to? J

  Simon

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Future 
Aviation Pty. Ltd.
  Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 6:51 PM
  To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps

   

  Hi all

   

  I didn't want to contradict Adam before the final results were out but I hope 
I can 

  be forgiven for stating that only three ASG 29 competed but finished first, 
second 

  and third. 

  Congratulations to Graham, Hank and Mac. 

   

  Adam, the fastest speed of the comp was done by Mac flying an ASG 29.

   

  Bernard Eckey

  FUTURE AVIATION PTY. LTD.

  10 Antigua Grove

  West Lakes 5021

  Adelaide / South Australia

  Ph/Fax +61 8 8449 2871

  mobile 0412 981204

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Woolley
  Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2007 9:14 PM
  To: aus soaring
  Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps

   

  Not sure if Westy was pulling my leg or not, but he had said that a V2cx did 
180km/hr over the task!
   
  Sounds like it's either the 'biggest ever...' aus soaring day, or the VENTUS 
2CX is just a WICKED glider!!
   
  Wonder how many have pulled out of the comp to try for the 1000 or record 
flights?
   
   
  WPP

  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > To: [email protected]
  > Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:27:51 +1100
  > Subject: [Aus-soaring] NSW State Comps
  > 
  > The had practice day on Sunday.
  > 
  > There are plenty of flies to eat.
  > 
  > The new Duo X has won a day or two.
  > 
  > Macca has won.
  > 
  > Forgot who the other winners were.
  > 
  > They have a huge day today 400 - 500 km task.
  > 
  > Mal
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