Yes, Christopher. What is the agenda/reasoning? GFA's or CASA's. Chris
Sent from my iPad > On 1 Sep 2014, at 7:02 pm, Mike Borgelt <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> > wrote: > > Very nice, now why don't you answer Simon's question? > > Mike > > > > > At 06:40 PM 1/09/2014, you wrote: >> There is no conspiracy here but I admit it is a bit Pythonish! >> >> To fly gliders in Australia one only needs to comply with CAO 95.4. For GFA >> members, there is no requirement to hold a licence in order to fly gliders. >> You don't even need a GPC to fly gliders unless you want to exercise the >> privileges allowed to GPC holders. >> >> For non GFA-member pilots, all they need to do is apply to CASA as per CAO >> 95.4, paragraph 5.1(a)(ii). >> >> The CASA Glider pilot licence introduced by Part 61 is solely designed to >> facilitate the recognition of Australian glider pilots wishing to have their >> GFA GPC qualification recognised overseas. >> >> The GFA GPC is the only certificate issued by GFA that is recognised by CASA >> as compliant with ICAO Annex 1 and is the minimum requirement to get a CASA >> GPL. Currently most National Aviation Administration Authorities (NAAAs) >> only recognise licences issued by the NAAA of ICAO member states. >> >> The new CASA GPL is expected to make it easier for Australian pilots to >> obtain overseas qualifications and overcome past difficulties experienced by >> many of our pilots. >> >> Regards >> >> Christopher Thorpe >> Executive Manager, Operations | Gliding Federation of Australia (ABN 82 433 >> 264 489) | Level 1, 34 Somerton Road | Somerton | Victoria 3062 >> M: +61 4 1447 6151 | E: e...@glidingaustralia.org | w: >> www.glidingaustralia.org >> >> This email transmission may contain confidential or privileged information >> that is intended only for the individual or entity named in the email >> address. If you are not the intended recipient, please be aware that any >> disclosure, copying, distribution or reliance upon the contents of this >> email is strictly prohibited. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net >> [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Simon >> Hackett >> Sent: Monday, 1 September 2014 3:09 PM >> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Competition licenses - the emperor has no clothes >> >> Just want to call out one other thing from the thread that I have just had >> confirmed separately. >> >> The Australian CASA Glider Pilot License doesn't allow a pilot to fly a >> Glider in Australia. >> >> SRSLY? >> >> Its 2014. Why can't we live in a place where the GFA issues (or authorises) >> Glider Pilot Licenses for Australian glider pilots to fly Australian Gliders >> with (including ... in Australia)? >> >> I'm not bothered about an underlying requirement to be a GFA member in good >> standing (or to be separately authorised by CASA) if that floats the GFA's >> boat. >> >> Rather, I'm talking about the crazy notion that the outcome of doing >> everything right in the GFA system isn't an outcome where one can be a pilot >> licensed to fly a glider with a license to fly a glider called a Glider >> Pilot License - and where such a thing now exists but it doesn't actually >> work in the country of issue. >> >> I actually *have* a US glider license of precisely that form (a US pilots >> license with 'Glider' as an endorsement on it). I don't see that cramping >> the style of glider pilots in the USA. Quite the opposite, actually. >> >> I'm not really interested in how we got precisely here. >> >> I'm interested in what possible reason the GFA would have, today, to *not* >> to support the notion of a Glider Pilot License as something routinely >> issued to Australians to let them fly gliders in Australia - and for that to >> be the thing that people get issued with routinely (when, for instance, they >> achieve Silver C standard). >> >> Is there actually a valid reason for this state of affairs (as opposed to >> 'thats just not how we roll, son...') why this isn't the case - or why it >> shouldn't become the case? >> >> In other words, if I have a CASA issued Glider Pilot License, what, >> precisely, makes it unable to be sufficient to be permitted to fly a glider >> here (assuming one has a valid and current flight review)? >> >> I apologise for not having (yet) dug up the shiny new 1st September-onward >> regulations that govern the Glider Pilot License (and as already noted, CASA >> haven't yet actually published the application form on their web site >> either). But do those legally engaged regulations actually say that you >> can't use a Glider Pilot License to... fly a glider with? >> >> Coming at this cold, honestly, this reads like a Monty Python script :) >> >> Regards, >> Simon >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation > since 1978 > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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